Oct 2, 2026 · 1 hr · 10 segments
Talk originally given in Dallas, Texas, Unitarian Church (September 22, 1978) True heaven is described not as a physical place of light and pastures, but as a state of cosmic consciousness and…
But Jesus wasn't describing that heaven when he used the word heaven.
When he used the word heaven he meant cosmic consciousness, which we're coming to.
But the heaven that we think about, that heaven of light, that heaven of beautiful pastures and so on.
In fact, that world is, this world is a copy of that world.
That world is far more beautiful than this world.
And it's something that many saints have actually seen.
Yogananda said he used to live more in that world than in this world.
He would just go into that golden light and help souls on that side.
And those who are familiar with the literature of spiritual writings will be aware of people who have had this kind of experiences.
have actually transcended their physical forms and gone out into that world.
Behind that world, though, there is another kind of heaven that is beyond light, beyond form.
It's not beautiful in the same sense that we talk about.
It's just sort of different vibrations of bliss.
And this is the ideational world, and it's the Christ consciousness.
When you go deep into that, it'll become an elongated tunnel of blue light, And you go into that blue light, your consciousness has to be very subtle for that.
But in that world is that light where the masters live, that light behind the astral heavens even.
And then through the five-pointed star, when you can go through that, you go into the kingdom of God beyond all creation.
But Jesus wasn't describing that heaven when he used the word heaven.
When he used the word heaven he meant cosmic consciousness, which we're coming to.
But the heaven that we think about, that heaven of light, that heaven of beautiful pastures and so on.
In fact, that world is, this world is a copy of that world.
That world is far more beautiful than this world.
And it's something that many saints have actually seen.
Yogananda said he used to live more in that world than in this world.
He would just go into that golden light and help souls on that side.
And those who are familiar with the literature of spiritual writings will be aware of people who have had this kind of experiences.
have actually transcended their physical forms and gone out into that world.
Behind that world, though, there is another kind of heaven that is beyond light, beyond form.
It's not beautiful in the same sense that we talk about.
It's just sort of different vibrations of bliss.
And this is the ideational world, and it's the Christ consciousness.
When you go deep into that, it'll become an elongated tunnel of blue light, And you go into that blue light, your consciousness has to be very subtle for that.
But in that world is that light where the masters live, that light behind the astral heavens even.
And then through the five-pointed star, when you can go through that, you go into the kingdom of God beyond all creation.
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