Tipping Points: The Climate Podcast
Jul 30, 2026 · 33 min · 13 segments
In the last full episode of our series, we add public transport to the mix, and with that option added we rank all of the mainstream ways to travel from best to worst... SHOW NOTES / SOURCES "Taking…
Chris PocockHostNathalie ZupkeHostOkay, I think now that we established I'm clearly not the expert of this episode, I think we can move on to the main part of this episode.
And maybe before we really deep dive into public transport, why don't you give us a quick recap of where we have left off? This is the final episode of the season.

So the deal was we picked apart the big three options for getting yourself around individually.

They're useful in a few specific corners like logistics and shipping, but unlikely to scale to replace the family car, basically because you can't grow enough crops on the amount of land we've got.

Thirdly, then there's hydrogen and this is mostly a red herring for anything that you personally drive, mostly because you lose so much energy in making it, compressing it, converting it back again into usable energy that a battery just does a better job.

So where hydrogen does make sense potentially is heavy stuff like steel, fertilizer, maybe shipping, but not your commute.

And way more detail on that in the episodes, the last three episodes that we've recorded.

Today, as we say, we're doing the last bit that isn't really about you owning anything at all.
Okay, I think now that we established I'm clearly not the expert of this episode, I think we can move on to the main part of this episode.
And maybe before we really deep dive into public transport, why don't you give us a quick recap of where we have left off? This is the final episode of the season.

So the deal was we picked apart the big three options for getting yourself around individually.

They're useful in a few specific corners like logistics and shipping, but unlikely to scale to replace the family car, basically because you can't grow enough crops on the amount of land we've got.

Thirdly, then there's hydrogen and this is mostly a red herring for anything that you personally drive, mostly because you lose so much energy in making it, compressing it, converting it back again into usable energy that a battery just does a better job.

So where hydrogen does make sense potentially is heavy stuff like steel, fertilizer, maybe shipping, but not your commute.

And way more detail on that in the episodes, the last three episodes that we've recorded.

Today, as we say, we're doing the last bit that isn't really about you owning anything at all.
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