Jun 5, 2026 · 1 hr 3 min · 14 segments
Ruth is one of Amy and Adam's favourite people, and is the author of the lengendary E. Coli blog. In this wide ranging conversation, she covers inclusion, staff culture, feminism, curriculum, and…
Ruth AshbyGuest
Adam BoxerHostAmy ForresterHost
But, um, but yeah, I think, um, yeah, certainly, like, developed in that area a lot since I started.
What, we're nearly three years into this podcast now, and we talk about it very regularly, to be fair.
Um, can you just outline for either people who, for whatever reason, have not come across this work of art, um, and just sort of talk through kind of, like, your major arguments in it, but also particularly about how it kind of applies in 2026, the world that we're in now?
Um, and it's about a restaurant where I think a lot of the guests, um, have become ill with, um, E. coli.
And as we know, often the people who get ill with E. coli are, um, babies or elderly or, like, medically vulnerable people.
So what they do is they, um, look at where the, the babies eat, so that's the high chairs.
So I think they kind of specially sterilize the high chairs, and I can't remember what it said about the old people's food.
I think they, like, maybe put the old people's food through, like, some irradiation or gamma or something, but they do something special to the old people's food, um, uh, before they give it to them.
Um, and, and obviously, like, that's crazy, isn't it? What they need to do is to go and clean their kitchen, um, because that's, that's the basics.
Clean the kitchen and other food hygiene stuff like, you know, um, not using the chopping boards in a mixed-up way or, like, not keeping hold of food when you shouldn't.
But, you know, these individual adaptations are not the right way to help these individual people who have suffered.
Like, at the time, um, it, I think it, it must've been, like, maybe 2018 or something.
But, um, but yeah, I think, um, yeah, certainly, like, developed in that area a lot since I started.
What, we're nearly three years into this podcast now, and we talk about it very regularly, to be fair.
Um, can you just outline for either people who, for whatever reason, have not come across this work of art, um, and just sort of talk through kind of, like, your major arguments in it, but also particularly about how it kind of applies in 2026, the world that we're in now?
Um, and it's about a restaurant where I think a lot of the guests, um, have become ill with, um, E. coli.
And as we know, often the people who get ill with E. coli are, um, babies or elderly or, like, medically vulnerable people.
So what they do is they, um, look at where the, the babies eat, so that's the high chairs.
So I think they kind of specially sterilize the high chairs, and I can't remember what it said about the old people's food.
I think they, like, maybe put the old people's food through, like, some irradiation or gamma or something, but they do something special to the old people's food, um, uh, before they give it to them.
Um, and, and obviously, like, that's crazy, isn't it? What they need to do is to go and clean their kitchen, um, because that's, that's the basics.
Clean the kitchen and other food hygiene stuff like, you know, um, not using the chopping boards in a mixed-up way or, like, not keeping hold of food when you shouldn't.
But, you know, these individual adaptations are not the right way to help these individual people who have suffered.
Like, at the time, um, it, I think it, it must've been, like, maybe 2018 or something.
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