The Women & Wealth Show from Annex Wealth Management
Oct 3, 2026 · 55 min · 23 segments
This week, Deanne Phillips and Arabella Parins tackle a financial planning philosophy that sounds downright reckless at first glance: "Die with Zero." Is it a smarter way to think about money…
Marti WronskiGuestBrian JacobsonGuestRose GrayGuest
Joe KrausHostRebecca PosigGuestArabella ParinsGuestI want to start today with a financial planning idea that sounds almost irresponsible.
And no, I don't think the message is that we should spend our last dollar five minutes before we die and slide into home base.
What if we've become so focused on having enough money for retirement that we actually have forgotten what the money is supposed to do for us in life?
A good financial plan isn't necessarily about accumulating the largest possible amount of money.
Now, what did it allow us to do? Who did it allow us to help? What experiences did it create? Arabella, here's the $5 million question in my mind.
And she's still afraid to spend $20,000 to take her children and grandchildren on the trip she's talked about for the last decade.
Is that financial discipline, or do you think something's maybe gone fundamentally wrong? Do we need to tweak her thinking?
I see the situation a lot with clients, and that's really where planning becomes more than just the numbers.
If the analysis shows that she can afford that trip without jeopardizing her future, then the obstacle may no longer be just purely financial.
I want to start today with a financial planning idea that sounds almost irresponsible.
And no, I don't think the message is that we should spend our last dollar five minutes before we die and slide into home base.
What if we've become so focused on having enough money for retirement that we actually have forgotten what the money is supposed to do for us in life?
A good financial plan isn't necessarily about accumulating the largest possible amount of money.
Now, what did it allow us to do? Who did it allow us to help? What experiences did it create? Arabella, here's the $5 million question in my mind.
And she's still afraid to spend $20,000 to take her children and grandchildren on the trip she's talked about for the last decade.
Is that financial discipline, or do you think something's maybe gone fundamentally wrong? Do we need to tweak her thinking?
I see the situation a lot with clients, and that's really where planning becomes more than just the numbers.
If the analysis shows that she can afford that trip without jeopardizing her future, then the obstacle may no longer be just purely financial.
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