Jun 22, 2026 · 1 hr 21 min · 10 segments
Click here for the video link on YouTube I thoroughly enjoyed my discussion with someone I genuinely respect, Patrick Smith. We covered both fun and serious topics and I think you’ll get something…
Mark MarescaHostLet me get something out of my head that came up while you were talking that I think is a useful lesson to learn first, and then we can pivot to that if you don't mind.
You cannot learn something new without you possessing a modicum of curiosity.
the empty box that you're able to fill with new knowledge and once you understand that you can understand that that's how it works for everybody around you as well and so if someone is not curious to hear about what you have to say about the world or the government or the superstition of it's just authority they they have no capacity to learn what you're trying to say um And so it's sort of like the cold opens where you just approach, like if you were to just stand out on the street corner and approach people out of nowhere and be like, hey, let me tell you about anarchy.
The curious people are the engineering-minded people that are just curious about complicated systems like philosophy.
I think out of everyone, the most easily convertible through argumentation and logic will be the engineers because they're the ones interested in thinking about those types of things and pretty much everyone else is not.
And then that, of course, then dictates, again, inversely, how the best method to change the world is to be a person that people want to learn from.
That means being conscientious, a hard worker, somebody that's there for them when you need them.
Just by being a good person that people look up to, those people will come to you and want to learn from you.
What makes this guy tick? Why does he, why is he such a cool guy? Like, what does he believe? I want to know and understand because even subconsciously I want to be like that guy.
And so that, those are the opportunities when they come to you and they're like, what did you call yourself at one time? Like, you know, a year ago, I remember you saying you were like an anarcho-capitalist.
Let me get something out of my head that came up while you were talking that I think is a useful lesson to learn first, and then we can pivot to that if you don't mind.
You cannot learn something new without you possessing a modicum of curiosity.
the empty box that you're able to fill with new knowledge and once you understand that you can understand that that's how it works for everybody around you as well and so if someone is not curious to hear about what you have to say about the world or the government or the superstition of it's just authority they they have no capacity to learn what you're trying to say um And so it's sort of like the cold opens where you just approach, like if you were to just stand out on the street corner and approach people out of nowhere and be like, hey, let me tell you about anarchy.
The curious people are the engineering-minded people that are just curious about complicated systems like philosophy.
I think out of everyone, the most easily convertible through argumentation and logic will be the engineers because they're the ones interested in thinking about those types of things and pretty much everyone else is not.
And then that, of course, then dictates, again, inversely, how the best method to change the world is to be a person that people want to learn from.
That means being conscientious, a hard worker, somebody that's there for them when you need them.
Just by being a good person that people look up to, those people will come to you and want to learn from you.
What makes this guy tick? Why does he, why is he such a cool guy? Like, what does he believe? I want to know and understand because even subconsciously I want to be like that guy.
And so that, those are the opportunities when they come to you and they're like, what did you call yourself at one time? Like, you know, a year ago, I remember you saying you were like an anarcho-capitalist.
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