Aug 9, 2026 · 59 min · 10 segments
We take a look at one of the most infamous true crime stories in American history. And to do so we enlist the help of good friend Amye Archer of the…
So I guess we should set the table somewhat-
... 'cause there are probably people that don't know much about the case, if anything.
There's a ransom note left behind in her parents' home.
Multi-page ransom note, which is very, very important.
Somebody asked for $118,000, which is also important.
Big, sprawling house that leaves house that had a bunch of additions on it.
You're shaking your head, Amy.
Massive
And I remember, this is how baked into my brain this case was, when we first had my daughters, we lived in a house that had three stories, and because of the way it was set up, my girls were in, like, the third floor in the attic-
Mm
in, like, a carriage room that my husband fixed for them, and then we were in the basement.
[laughs] And even now when I was watching this again, and they show how far her room was from Patsy and John's, and I'm not blaming them, but it was quite, quite a distance.
And they would not have heard anything, and I think that's baked into sort of every Gen X or Millennial brain into parenting is, "Oh, I gotta be able to hear it.
Absolutely.
You know, I was just telling our realtor that's our age, we were talking about our kids and, like, co-sleeping 'cause they're around the same age, or not co-sleeping, but, like, being in their room until they fall asleep, and how-
So I guess we should set the table somewhat-
... 'cause there are probably people that don't know much about the case, if anything.
There's a ransom note left behind in her parents' home.
Multi-page ransom note, which is very, very important.
Somebody asked for $118,000, which is also important.
Big, sprawling house that leaves house that had a bunch of additions on it.
You're shaking your head, Amy.
Massive
And I remember, this is how baked into my brain this case was, when we first had my daughters, we lived in a house that had three stories, and because of the way it was set up, my girls were in, like, the third floor in the attic-
Mm
in, like, a carriage room that my husband fixed for them, and then we were in the basement.
[laughs] And even now when I was watching this again, and they show how far her room was from Patsy and John's, and I'm not blaming them, but it was quite, quite a distance.
And they would not have heard anything, and I think that's baked into sort of every Gen X or Millennial brain into parenting is, "Oh, I gotta be able to hear it.
Absolutely.
You know, I was just telling our realtor that's our age, we were talking about our kids and, like, co-sleeping 'cause they're around the same age, or not co-sleeping, but, like, being in their room until they fall asleep, and how-
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