Aug 31, 2026 · 1 hr 3 min · 14 segments
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Brian JepsonHost
But let me pick out a few things that I think are particularly relevant and important for us to remember.

So one of my favorite stories that Tom shared was how he got an A in his college chemistry class.

In fact, he knew it sounds like he knew very little of it and just tried to fill out the answer sheets in a pattern.

The bonus question was, tell me the name of the janitor who cleans this classroom.

And Tom not only knew his first name, he knew his last name, he knew his kids, and he knew a lot about him.

And that tells us something about Tom, but it also tells us something about how we should all be intentional about forging those relationships and what should really matter the most to us.

The second part of that is how he became the medical director of the NFL Players Association.

It's because he had developed a relationship with somebody who knew him and trusted him who picked up the phone and offered him the job.

So I think important to remember opportunities often come through those relationships long before they come through our credentials.

So for anyone thinking about a second career, networking isn't just about collecting business cards.

But let me pick out a few things that I think are particularly relevant and important for us to remember.

So one of my favorite stories that Tom shared was how he got an A in his college chemistry class.

In fact, he knew it sounds like he knew very little of it and just tried to fill out the answer sheets in a pattern.

The bonus question was, tell me the name of the janitor who cleans this classroom.

And Tom not only knew his first name, he knew his last name, he knew his kids, and he knew a lot about him.

And that tells us something about Tom, but it also tells us something about how we should all be intentional about forging those relationships and what should really matter the most to us.

The second part of that is how he became the medical director of the NFL Players Association.

It's because he had developed a relationship with somebody who knew him and trusted him who picked up the phone and offered him the job.

So I think important to remember opportunities often come through those relationships long before they come through our credentials.

So for anyone thinking about a second career, networking isn't just about collecting business cards.
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