The Schilling Show Unleashed Podcast
Sep 1, 2026 · 31 min · 11 segments
Derrick Warfel is an award-winning filmmaker, the owner of Winter Star Productions, and author of the new book…
Derrick WarfelGuest
Rob SchillingHost
So this has been a debate for many years, and I think it's still ongoing, although probably there are more converts.
But by the early 90s, it shows my age here, I just began to see too many people who are credible people who started talking about this.
And I, you know, who not only saw things that couldn't be explained, but also had contact.
And I just thought, well, I don't have a place for this in my Christian faith.
So I started doing some research, and I ran across a book by John Akerberg called The Truth About UFOs.
At that point, the more I studied it, the more I realized it's the best fit for explaining what's going on.
I think there's more than, in the beginning of my book, I give like about 60 different reasons why it's hard to just dismiss this.
I suppose you can dismiss it, but at a certain point, it just becomes ridiculous.
For example, I mean that in 2017, the New York Times article, which actually had videos tracing a UAP or UFO, from a Navy destroyer.
You know, how do you explain that? I mean, we even interviewed in our film one person who was a radar operator on that ship.
He said for three days they just were tracking this UAP doing things that nothing we have could do.
Like, for instance, it would drop from 20,000 feet to sea level in less than seven-tenths of a second and just stop on a dime.
I mean, if we did that with one of the ships we have, the person was splattered all over the walls and we just do that's traveling approximately 19,000 miles an hour.
So what, how do you, I mean, are you just going to ignore that that's a possibility? Because I believe as more and more people see that there's some reality to this, and you get films like Spielberg's Disclosure Day, which is not just a fantasy anymore like his other films, but he's basically saying, hey, this, folks, this is reality.
So this has been a debate for many years, and I think it's still ongoing, although probably there are more converts.
But by the early 90s, it shows my age here, I just began to see too many people who are credible people who started talking about this.
And I, you know, who not only saw things that couldn't be explained, but also had contact.
And I just thought, well, I don't have a place for this in my Christian faith.
So I started doing some research, and I ran across a book by John Akerberg called The Truth About UFOs.
At that point, the more I studied it, the more I realized it's the best fit for explaining what's going on.
I think there's more than, in the beginning of my book, I give like about 60 different reasons why it's hard to just dismiss this.
I suppose you can dismiss it, but at a certain point, it just becomes ridiculous.
For example, I mean that in 2017, the New York Times article, which actually had videos tracing a UAP or UFO, from a Navy destroyer.
You know, how do you explain that? I mean, we even interviewed in our film one person who was a radar operator on that ship.
He said for three days they just were tracking this UAP doing things that nothing we have could do.
Like, for instance, it would drop from 20,000 feet to sea level in less than seven-tenths of a second and just stop on a dime.
I mean, if we did that with one of the ships we have, the person was splattered all over the walls and we just do that's traveling approximately 19,000 miles an hour.
So what, how do you, I mean, are you just going to ignore that that's a possibility? Because I believe as more and more people see that there's some reality to this, and you get films like Spielberg's Disclosure Day, which is not just a fantasy anymore like his other films, but he's basically saying, hey, this, folks, this is reality.
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