The Right to Ordinary with Inclusion Ireland
Jul 27, 2026 · 56 min · 11 segments
In our first episode, we explore ableism – what it is, where it comes from, and how it continues to shape the lives of people with intellectual disabilities every day. Through honest conversation and…
Derval McDonaghHost
Lydia FisherGuestFiachra O'ConnorGuest
Ableism, as you might know, is a deep rooted prejudice and discrimination that basically says some minds and bodies are better or more superior than others.


It's more like an evolving story as it's still very present and unfolding of the segregation and isolation of disabled people and their families.

Up until the 90s, it was very typical to offer a place in an institution to a newborn baby who happened to be disabled.

And if we grew up in a time where large institutions exist, and yes, that's still today, then that kind of thinking seeps into our mindset and we call it institutionality at Inclusion Ireland.

It's that firmly held belief that institutions have the answers rather than people and communities.

And somehow that there are groups of people who need to be separate and othered and segregated.

But if we don't grapple with that story, that story of institutionalisation, we risk repeating patterns of isolation.

We closed down the institutions on the hill, but more than ever, we have a high population of disabled people in our prison system.

But most insidious of all is that we hold on to that thinking, the institutionalised thinking, the thinking that says you're a problem to be hidden away or you belong elsewhere.

It no longer looks like the institution on the hill, but it can certainly feel very similar.

And that's what we do at Inclusion Ireland every single day, to watch how it shows up.

And we ultimately all have a responsibility together to dismantle this system so that people have the right to an ordinary, ordinary life.

Ableism, as you might know, is a deep rooted prejudice and discrimination that basically says some minds and bodies are better or more superior than others.


It's more like an evolving story as it's still very present and unfolding of the segregation and isolation of disabled people and their families.

Up until the 90s, it was very typical to offer a place in an institution to a newborn baby who happened to be disabled.

And if we grew up in a time where large institutions exist, and yes, that's still today, then that kind of thinking seeps into our mindset and we call it institutionality at Inclusion Ireland.

It's that firmly held belief that institutions have the answers rather than people and communities.

And somehow that there are groups of people who need to be separate and othered and segregated.

But if we don't grapple with that story, that story of institutionalisation, we risk repeating patterns of isolation.

We closed down the institutions on the hill, but more than ever, we have a high population of disabled people in our prison system.

But most insidious of all is that we hold on to that thinking, the institutionalised thinking, the thinking that says you're a problem to be hidden away or you belong elsewhere.

It no longer looks like the institution on the hill, but it can certainly feel very similar.

And that's what we do at Inclusion Ireland every single day, to watch how it shows up.

And we ultimately all have a responsibility together to dismantle this system so that people have the right to an ordinary, ordinary life.
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