
Lydia Fisher
Self-advocate and co-trainer at Inclusion Ireland; speaker on intellectual disability rights and inclusion
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Jul 27, 2026
The Right to Ordinary Begins Here
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Derval McDonaghHOST
So do you want to tell us a little bit about the start of that journey and what was hard about it, what was difficult about it and what you wish was better for people with intellectual disabilities?

Lydia FisherGUEST
It was difficult because when people with intellectual disability put CVs out, it's difficult when people do not get back to you and you're just trying to keep going.

Lydia FisherGUEST
But when people do not get back to you, it's more harder to keep going because you're hoping for them to get back to you and sometimes they do not.

Lydia FisherGUEST
For me, I'd say I put 160 CV ads before my first job and I didn't get anything back until I kept putting CV ads in the same place.

Lydia FisherGUEST
an interview I was afraid but I also was excited because this is what I've been working for for two three years fully and I got the job first when I went in to get the interview They sat me down for two hours to talk to me, and then I done two hours work experience to see if I can able to do the job.

Lydia FisherGUEST
And I think that is very good because sometimes you can talk, talk, talk, but if you do not show you can do the job, no one will know.
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Derval McDonaghHOST
But, you know, there was a bit of ableism around this as well, wasn't there, that somebody was saying to you something very negative about it.