Sep 21, 2026 · 1 hr 6 min · 11 segments
Eric Saperston took an unconventional path into entrepreneurship. After college, he hit the road in a Volkswagen bus, asking successful and influential people if they would sit down with him for a…
Eric SaperstonGuestMark PerkinsHost
It has become really easy in our world to become cynical and jaded and know-it-alls.
And curiosity is such an important pathway for fulfillment, achievement, satisfaction.
It's one of our core values at the very beginning of our birth is to be curious.
And I think it is one of the pillars that enables people to become fulfilled and successful in life.
But, you know, you made this game, but I think the game came out of everything you've learned in life and the opportunity you had to talk to so many different people.
And it seems like you wanted to extend and give people the same experience, maybe develop the same confidence to ask those questions, to get out in the world and maybe develop more interpersonal skills when we become so tech and so focused on these gadgets.
What'd you discover as we'll move through why you built three things? What'd you discover about successful humans? You've probably answered that hundreds of times, but I think that's going to lead us into what we can discover from each other when we use your game that you've made.
So I have spent my career calling up essentially the most powerful people in the world and asking them out for coffee and to distill the common traits and motivating factors and beliefs that separate ordinary achievement from legendary success.
think the way you quoted it, yeah, so I think if you go on like your website, it's awesome all the things you've done.
And I think the way it was laid out there is what separates the ordinary from extraordinary.
I don't know if, I hate to say that about humans, but maybe experiences, maybe outcomes, maybe the actual human and their attributes.
But to you, what just separates everything maybe in this world, not just us humans and what we achieve, the ordinary from the extraordinary.
What I love about that statement is a long time ago in my real estate company, I wanted us to be a little bit extra, a little bit better, to raise the game a little bit more, to give our customers and consumers a little bit better experience and for all of us to live a better life.
It has become really easy in our world to become cynical and jaded and know-it-alls.
And curiosity is such an important pathway for fulfillment, achievement, satisfaction.
It's one of our core values at the very beginning of our birth is to be curious.
And I think it is one of the pillars that enables people to become fulfilled and successful in life.
But, you know, you made this game, but I think the game came out of everything you've learned in life and the opportunity you had to talk to so many different people.
And it seems like you wanted to extend and give people the same experience, maybe develop the same confidence to ask those questions, to get out in the world and maybe develop more interpersonal skills when we become so tech and so focused on these gadgets.
What'd you discover as we'll move through why you built three things? What'd you discover about successful humans? You've probably answered that hundreds of times, but I think that's going to lead us into what we can discover from each other when we use your game that you've made.
So I have spent my career calling up essentially the most powerful people in the world and asking them out for coffee and to distill the common traits and motivating factors and beliefs that separate ordinary achievement from legendary success.
think the way you quoted it, yeah, so I think if you go on like your website, it's awesome all the things you've done.
And I think the way it was laid out there is what separates the ordinary from extraordinary.
I don't know if, I hate to say that about humans, but maybe experiences, maybe outcomes, maybe the actual human and their attributes.
But to you, what just separates everything maybe in this world, not just us humans and what we achieve, the ordinary from the extraordinary.
What I love about that statement is a long time ago in my real estate company, I wanted us to be a little bit extra, a little bit better, to raise the game a little bit more, to give our customers and consumers a little bit better experience and for all of us to live a better life.
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