Jun 25, 2026 · 49 min · 11 segments
*Does the flare up in recent AUKUS debates represent the perspectives of the broader Australian public?* *Does Australia have a credible Plan B if part of AUKUS falters?* *Can Australia sustain the…
Peter DeanGuestJennifer ParkerGuest
Justin BurkeHost
We are rapidly approaching the fifth anniversary of AUKUS, and just this month has seen a flurry of announcements from a reduced life of type extension for the existing Collins class boats to, at long last, a signature pillar two project centered on the extra large uncrewed undersea vehicles.

And of course, the announcement that the three Virginia class submarines due to be transferred from the US to Australia in the early twenty thirties would be in service rather than one brand new one as previously indicated.

We have a new UK Prime Minister incoming, and also, uh, to discuss today the annual Lowy Poll.

Today, we are going to weigh these developments with defense experts, Jen Parker, an expert associate here at the college and an adjunct professor at the University of Western Australia, and Peter Dean, professor here at the ANU.

Thinking over those recent AUKUS announcements, I'd like to know what elements of those that you found to be encouraging, perhaps elements of those announcements you found to be discouraging, and indeed if there are any elements of those recent announcements that you felt were misunderstood or blown out of proportion.

We are rapidly approaching the fifth anniversary of AUKUS, and just this month has seen a flurry of announcements from a reduced life of type extension for the existing Collins class boats to, at long last, a signature pillar two project centered on the extra large uncrewed undersea vehicles.

And of course, the announcement that the three Virginia class submarines due to be transferred from the US to Australia in the early twenty thirties would be in service rather than one brand new one as previously indicated.

We have a new UK Prime Minister incoming, and also, uh, to discuss today the annual Lowy Poll.

Today, we are going to weigh these developments with defense experts, Jen Parker, an expert associate here at the college and an adjunct professor at the University of Western Australia, and Peter Dean, professor here at the ANU.

Thinking over those recent AUKUS announcements, I'd like to know what elements of those that you found to be encouraging, perhaps elements of those announcements you found to be discouraging, and indeed if there are any elements of those recent announcements that you felt were misunderstood or blown out of proportion.
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