261 Interview with Adrian Gostick

So you mentioned kind of the work with cultures and change.

And one of the things that I often hear from CEOs and key executives is that that our culture is one that is not quite open to change.

Like maybe there is a lot of change going on or some previous changes have failed.

So what do people need to know about like organizational change as it relates to culture?

That's a good question because we do.

We love our ruts.

And unfortunately, change is now, it's a bit of a cliche, but change is the new normal.

Every organization I go into, they say, now, Adrienne, before you come in and give your keynote or coaching or whatever I'm doing, you have to understand we're going through a lot of change.

Like, what organization isn't? The US government is going through change.

I mean, that used to be the job that you would get if you wanted to have the same job for the next 30 years.

Everyone is going through change right now.

And so it really is the new normal.

So first off, as human beings, we've got to be able to embrace it.

But as leaders, we've got to be able to lead people through this.

Now, that first off means we have to show a vision of what this might look like.

We have to align people.

with what we're hoping to accomplish.

We have to recognize every step forward.

There are some steps we can take to help people get to the other side.

Unfortunately, most leaders think, well, I announced the change.

I had a big meeting.

Everybody get on board.

And it rarely works that way, as you know.

So let's start with first the side of like the receivers of the change.

Let's say the employees are impacted and might be really overwhelmed.