Sep 1, 2026 · 52 min · 11 segments
This week we’re hanging with **Abigail Rose Clarke**, an author, artist, and somatic facilitator. Tasha’s been a fangirl of her Instagram for ages, so…
Abigail Rose ClarkeGuestTashaHostJeffHostI love this so much because I feel like across modalities, this is something that's coming out.
Like in my own teachings, which come from like, you know, Dzogchen, the whole we're constantly pointing at space.
That's the whole thing.
It's like locating the sense of self as space and then kind of like personhood or personality.
Identity yourself is this like ever-changing thing that is arising in space, right? And it's very hard to orient someone to that at the very beginning if all they've ever attended to is the stuff, like the stuff of the body itself.
the stuff of my personality, you know, identifying with the hard facts, you know, of this is who I am.
This is how I look.
This is my body.
And, and finding the language that can orient someone essentially to what you're talking about, which is space, the space between, or even just like the fluidity, you know, you're talking about kind of this emergent property of someone just becoming more flexible, more fluid and at ease, even in difficulty and stuff.
And so this is super inspiring because it's, This is one of those areas where science is constantly trailing behind.
So to finally have some kind of, you know, scientific things we can point to and say, OK, you have an opportunity to either you can identify with, you know, the hard mass of your body.
You can also attend to the fluidity in the body, the spaciousness of the body.
And that's as real as the meat stuff that you keep.
Exactly.
You know.
I love this so much because I feel like across modalities, this is something that's coming out.
Like in my own teachings, which come from like, you know, Dzogchen, the whole we're constantly pointing at space.
That's the whole thing.
It's like locating the sense of self as space and then kind of like personhood or personality.
Identity yourself is this like ever-changing thing that is arising in space, right? And it's very hard to orient someone to that at the very beginning if all they've ever attended to is the stuff, like the stuff of the body itself.
the stuff of my personality, you know, identifying with the hard facts, you know, of this is who I am.
This is how I look.
This is my body.
And, and finding the language that can orient someone essentially to what you're talking about, which is space, the space between, or even just like the fluidity, you know, you're talking about kind of this emergent property of someone just becoming more flexible, more fluid and at ease, even in difficulty and stuff.
And so this is super inspiring because it's, This is one of those areas where science is constantly trailing behind.
So to finally have some kind of, you know, scientific things we can point to and say, OK, you have an opportunity to either you can identify with, you know, the hard mass of your body.
You can also attend to the fluidity in the body, the spaciousness of the body.
And that's as real as the meat stuff that you keep.
Exactly.
You know.
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