Jun 10, 2026 · 2 hr 5 min · 14 segments
What makes someone leave the United States and choose to build a life in Nairobi, Kenya? In this episode of The Kisscapades Podcast, we sit down with Rochelle Hawkins—an African-American content…
John TelewaHost
Rochelle HawkinsGuest
Nigerians have just been, like, crossing, like, by all means necessary, trying to get there.
And then here we do have... you know somebody who's just moving away from america yeah which is like just it seems like have you talked to other people and the way they talk about america like it's the promised land
Yes, a lot of people do believe it is the land of milk and honey, the promised land.
I do think that American globalization and the American media is a large factor into pushing the American dream.
You know, like I lived, I was actually in the United States during most of COVID and, you know, There was times where it was really scary.
And also, I genuinely developed a passion for traveling and learning languages and immersing myself into different cultures, which is why I do enjoy being a nomad.
But even if I was to ask, because like the biggest thing that like even for my case I've seen with travel, like I always just kind of like get homesick.
And so I just, it's kind of hard for me, especially like I think I did my first Euro trip last year.
Nigerians have just been, like, crossing, like, by all means necessary, trying to get there.
And then here we do have... you know somebody who's just moving away from america yeah which is like just it seems like have you talked to other people and the way they talk about america like it's the promised land
Yes, a lot of people do believe it is the land of milk and honey, the promised land.
I do think that American globalization and the American media is a large factor into pushing the American dream.
You know, like I lived, I was actually in the United States during most of COVID and, you know, There was times where it was really scary.
And also, I genuinely developed a passion for traveling and learning languages and immersing myself into different cultures, which is why I do enjoy being a nomad.
But even if I was to ask, because like the biggest thing that like even for my case I've seen with travel, like I always just kind of like get homesick.
And so I just, it's kind of hard for me, especially like I think I did my first Euro trip last year.
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