Oct 28, 2026 · 24 min · 11 segments
On this episode of Meidas Defense, host Joe Plenzler sits down with former Pentagon official and national security expert Dr. Michael Horowitz to discuss how drones, artificial intelligence, and…
Michael HorowitzGuest
Joe PlenzlerHost
And by precise mass, what I mean is the intersection of advances in artificial intelligence and autonomy to help pilot some of these systems, commercial manufacturing and the fact that you can use commercial manufacturing to build lots of these drones.

You don't need like super, super fancy production facilities that only exist in like two parts of a country.



And so what are they doing? they're innovating by building these lower cost, cheaper systems that can go anywhere from a couple of kilometers to a couple thousand kilometers in the case of something like Iran's Shaheed 136.

And when we think about like, you know, we're reading in the headlines, things like the US missile interceptor missile inventory is being depleted, which creates a risk to the country.

What are your thoughts on that? Is that a true statement? Or are you concerned about those things?

And the U.S. military starts consolidating into an arsenal of weapons and of platforms.

Think about a platform like an aircraft carrier and a weapon like a missile that are essentially exclusively exquisite, so super fancy, expensive, you know, like speaks for itself, and hard to build.

And that worked in a world where the US was fighting against people that couldn't really fight back or fighting really short conflicts.


We're just using up huge stockpiles of these weapons and because they're exquisite and expensive and hard to produce, it means they're also really hard to replace.

And it's not just on the offense with these systems, it's also on the defense.


Now imagine that Iran fires a Shahid 136 at an American military base in the Middle East and the US shoots it down.

And by precise mass, what I mean is the intersection of advances in artificial intelligence and autonomy to help pilot some of these systems, commercial manufacturing and the fact that you can use commercial manufacturing to build lots of these drones.

You don't need like super, super fancy production facilities that only exist in like two parts of a country.



And so what are they doing? they're innovating by building these lower cost, cheaper systems that can go anywhere from a couple of kilometers to a couple thousand kilometers in the case of something like Iran's Shaheed 136.

And when we think about like, you know, we're reading in the headlines, things like the US missile interceptor missile inventory is being depleted, which creates a risk to the country.

What are your thoughts on that? Is that a true statement? Or are you concerned about those things?

And the U.S. military starts consolidating into an arsenal of weapons and of platforms.

Think about a platform like an aircraft carrier and a weapon like a missile that are essentially exclusively exquisite, so super fancy, expensive, you know, like speaks for itself, and hard to build.

And that worked in a world where the US was fighting against people that couldn't really fight back or fighting really short conflicts.


We're just using up huge stockpiles of these weapons and because they're exquisite and expensive and hard to produce, it means they're also really hard to replace.

And it's not just on the offense with these systems, it's also on the defense.


Now imagine that Iran fires a Shahid 136 at an American military base in the Middle East and the US shoots it down.
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