Jul 20, 2026 · 41 min · 11 segments
We're back with Part Two of this summer series, Women + The Church, and today we're finally getting into the text itself. This week, Jess and Nick sit down to actually open Scripture together…
Nicholas ConleyGuestNow, the reason why we're here this week, on women and the church, we're really talking about like what the Bible says, because every time we talk about this online, anytime I talk about this in person, you know, for the last 15 to 20 years, the kind of immediate tension is like, well, like, what about this verse? And what about this verse? And what about this verse? And so really, I wanna tell you upfront that the aim of this podcast episode is not to convince you to interpret scripture the way that Nick and I interpret scripture.
Because, you know, you and I might not always interpret every single verse the same way either.
And we believe in charitable orthodoxy, this idea that like within the orthodox tenets of the Christian faith, that there are some non-negotiables that we are always gonna stand firm on.
There are some things that like, depending on the way you read scripture, the way you interpret scripture, how you study scripture, the different context or perspective that you have, that you might come to a different conclusion about a particular verse.
And as long as you're within those tenets of orthodoxy, that you can be charitable about the negotiable items.
And I would say the other way that I put this is that I just really wrestle with this idea that if Jesus wanted to blink, if he wanted to snap his fingers, and we all agree we would.
And so I have to believe that like us having varying perspectives on some of these issues actually is for our formation.
So that being said, this episode is not to convince you to come into our biblical interpretation, but it's really to address the idea that there are multiple biblical frameworks by which we interpret all scripture.
But there are a couple of different frameworks by which people interpret scripture specifically about women and maybe to just like put them on the table and notice them.
Now, the reason why we're here this week, on women and the church, we're really talking about like what the Bible says, because every time we talk about this online, anytime I talk about this in person, you know, for the last 15 to 20 years, the kind of immediate tension is like, well, like, what about this verse? And what about this verse? And what about this verse? And so really, I wanna tell you upfront that the aim of this podcast episode is not to convince you to interpret scripture the way that Nick and I interpret scripture.
Because, you know, you and I might not always interpret every single verse the same way either.
And we believe in charitable orthodoxy, this idea that like within the orthodox tenets of the Christian faith, that there are some non-negotiables that we are always gonna stand firm on.
There are some things that like, depending on the way you read scripture, the way you interpret scripture, how you study scripture, the different context or perspective that you have, that you might come to a different conclusion about a particular verse.
And as long as you're within those tenets of orthodoxy, that you can be charitable about the negotiable items.
And I would say the other way that I put this is that I just really wrestle with this idea that if Jesus wanted to blink, if he wanted to snap his fingers, and we all agree we would.
And so I have to believe that like us having varying perspectives on some of these issues actually is for our formation.
So that being said, this episode is not to convince you to come into our biblical interpretation, but it's really to address the idea that there are multiple biblical frameworks by which we interpret all scripture.
But there are a couple of different frameworks by which people interpret scripture specifically about women and maybe to just like put them on the table and notice them.
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