Sep 17, 2026 · 1 hr 10 min · 13 segments
What happens when surviving should feel like a second chance, but you still refuse to change? After surviving not one but two Widowmaker heart attacks, AJ Jones was forced to confront a question many…
Adrian JonesGuest
Tim ShieldsHost
And, well, before we get into the other side of that, I've heard you mention, you said the word soul twice.

So did you have some sort of spirituality or religion prior to this? Or did you kind of wake up to that on the other side of the first Widowmaker?

So I would say I'm, I mean, I was raised Catholic, although I'm not terribly practicing, but there is an element of faith and believer in me.

But what happened as I shared, and I hope your listeners believe me, like the voice in my right ear, find your birth parents, go help and inspire people.

I found my people because it's like, holy cow, like what is this big thing happening? Like this is bigger than me right now.

And so that brought a lot of spirituality into just some level of spirituality.

I wouldn't say – I'm definitely not – very actively practicing in any sort of level of faith.

I go more into it in the one that I'm working on getting out into the world, but the concept of the soul lake, I think everybody has a soul lake and it's, it's a catalyst.

And when we don't listen to it, you know, when we ignore it, the lessons get bigger and harder.

And actually now that I'm saying this out loud, I think, well, I'm just going to ask you, I don't know what you, but I think I know what it is, but I want to hear what that means to you and, and if it even resonates with you.

Yeah, I mean, if I'm answering the question properly, so of course correct me if I drift here, but I think that for me, the ache was, it was almost like an ache and an identity break at the same time.

And, well, before we get into the other side of that, I've heard you mention, you said the word soul twice.

So did you have some sort of spirituality or religion prior to this? Or did you kind of wake up to that on the other side of the first Widowmaker?

So I would say I'm, I mean, I was raised Catholic, although I'm not terribly practicing, but there is an element of faith and believer in me.

But what happened as I shared, and I hope your listeners believe me, like the voice in my right ear, find your birth parents, go help and inspire people.

I found my people because it's like, holy cow, like what is this big thing happening? Like this is bigger than me right now.

And so that brought a lot of spirituality into just some level of spirituality.

I wouldn't say – I'm definitely not – very actively practicing in any sort of level of faith.

I go more into it in the one that I'm working on getting out into the world, but the concept of the soul lake, I think everybody has a soul lake and it's, it's a catalyst.

And when we don't listen to it, you know, when we ignore it, the lessons get bigger and harder.

And actually now that I'm saying this out loud, I think, well, I'm just going to ask you, I don't know what you, but I think I know what it is, but I want to hear what that means to you and, and if it even resonates with you.

Yeah, I mean, if I'm answering the question properly, so of course correct me if I drift here, but I think that for me, the ache was, it was almost like an ache and an identity break at the same time.
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