Oct 11, 2026 · 1 hr 51 min · 14 segments
In this Sunday Live, I explore the powerful meaning of gentleness in Philippians 4:2–5—a quality I describe as gentle reasonability: a humble, kind and reasonable way of relating to others, especially…
Mark DeJesusHost
Melissa DeJesusHost
But anyways, I had this question come in and I'll kind of address the question, but I also wanted to bring out, it has to do with me being on other people's podcasts.

And so I appreciate the sharing and people, just the positive work that everybody's bringing.

So I'm going to do two things, kind of address someone who's in church trying to figure out how to navigate their world of scrupulosity, but then also the request that they made here.

And this is, this is kind of, kind of be my take that I'm going to invite everyone into.

Um, Okay, hi Mark, your content has helped me so much in the past year, I'm genuinely grateful.

I've learned so much about scrupulosity and OCD, which has helped itself, helped tremendously just by simply identifying it.


I know you've spoken about this frustration too, so I'm just wondering how to best filter Well-meaning Bible teaching through a scrupulosity-aware lens without discounting the whole sermon or ignoring conviction.

Okay, there's a number of words there that I would have to like spend some time working through.

But I want to share this with everyone because many people who have not just OCD or perfectionism or scrupulosity or even anxiousness or even trauma that they're trying to work through.

And so I think that you have to understand, many people have said to me, Mark, man, I would love it if you pastored a church for all of us, right? Okay, let's take that scenario.

And I want you to understand, if you struggle with religious OCD and scrupulosity, and I had this church, and I spoke every Sunday, Wednesday, or whenever, right? There would be a time very, very soon you would get tripped up in the middle of my sermons, and I'm very aware of tripwires.

And so you have to understand when you're navigating through your battleground, you got to get familiar with an understanding of, okay, these are the areas I get tripped up in.

So whether the sermon delivery is infusing it or not, there will be times you get tripped up.

But anyways, I had this question come in and I'll kind of address the question, but I also wanted to bring out, it has to do with me being on other people's podcasts.

And so I appreciate the sharing and people, just the positive work that everybody's bringing.

So I'm going to do two things, kind of address someone who's in church trying to figure out how to navigate their world of scrupulosity, but then also the request that they made here.

And this is, this is kind of, kind of be my take that I'm going to invite everyone into.

Um, Okay, hi Mark, your content has helped me so much in the past year, I'm genuinely grateful.

I've learned so much about scrupulosity and OCD, which has helped itself, helped tremendously just by simply identifying it.


I know you've spoken about this frustration too, so I'm just wondering how to best filter Well-meaning Bible teaching through a scrupulosity-aware lens without discounting the whole sermon or ignoring conviction.

Okay, there's a number of words there that I would have to like spend some time working through.

But I want to share this with everyone because many people who have not just OCD or perfectionism or scrupulosity or even anxiousness or even trauma that they're trying to work through.

And so I think that you have to understand, many people have said to me, Mark, man, I would love it if you pastored a church for all of us, right? Okay, let's take that scenario.

And I want you to understand, if you struggle with religious OCD and scrupulosity, and I had this church, and I spoke every Sunday, Wednesday, or whenever, right? There would be a time very, very soon you would get tripped up in the middle of my sermons, and I'm very aware of tripwires.

And so you have to understand when you're navigating through your battleground, you got to get familiar with an understanding of, okay, these are the areas I get tripped up in.

So whether the sermon delivery is infusing it or not, there will be times you get tripped up.
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