EEG + Monarch eTNS for ADHD? Mike Ward From Firefly Neuroscience Joins With News.

And so you took EEG data, which I had Dave on this show before, and he told me that essentially we're reading 250 megabytes per person, which is a lot more than the data density of the words they crank out in 20 minutes.

We're reading their brainwaves and those evoked related potentials are having them do stuff during an EEG reading so we can track how their brain is actually functioning in real time.

And both kind of passive, eyes open, eyes closed, and thinking active thoughts, functionally evoked related potentials, lets us get more rich data about the brain state.

And apparently, you're telling me that now it's possible with the Firefly system to understand, thanks to the AI backbone... what that actually says about someone's inability to attend.

Is it one type of ADHD? I'm checking here.

Is it another type of ADHD? Or maybe it's another reason you can't pay attention that isn't ADHD.

Is that the right understanding?

Yes, correct.

And how does this have anything to do with a brain stimulator? So,

If you're doing anything with AI in healthcare, you need to tie it to the intervention.

And the problem we ran into when we rolled all this out was psychiatrists looked at it and they were like, this is great, Mike, but what am I supposed to do with it now? And so now that we actually have a brain stimulator, you can now take the objective biomarker or data we're providing you, and you now have an intervention modality that you can then provide a patient.

And then at which point we recommend you come back after four, eight, and then 16 weeks to actually see the treatment progression of that patient using that Monarch ATNS device.

So the Firefly system is working with Monarch not only to screen for whether it's appropriate to start in the first place, but to actually do some of the follow-ups to find out if it's working.

Correct.

And so you took EEG data, which I had Dave on this show before, and he told me that essentially we're reading 250 megabytes per person, which is a lot more than the data density of the words they crank out in 20 minutes.

We're reading their brainwaves and those evoked related potentials are having them do stuff during an EEG reading so we can track how their brain is actually functioning in real time.

And both kind of passive, eyes open, eyes closed, and thinking active thoughts, functionally evoked related potentials, lets us get more rich data about the brain state.

And apparently, you're telling me that now it's possible with the Firefly system to understand, thanks to the AI backbone... what that actually says about someone's inability to attend.

Is it one type of ADHD? I'm checking here.

Is it another type of ADHD? Or maybe it's another reason you can't pay attention that isn't ADHD.

Is that the right understanding?

Yes, correct.

And how does this have anything to do with a brain stimulator? So,

If you're doing anything with AI in healthcare, you need to tie it to the intervention.

And the problem we ran into when we rolled all this out was psychiatrists looked at it and they were like, this is great, Mike, but what am I supposed to do with it now? And so now that we actually have a brain stimulator, you can now take the objective biomarker or data we're providing you, and you now have an intervention modality that you can then provide a patient.

And then at which point we recommend you come back after four, eight, and then 16 weeks to actually see the treatment progression of that patient using that Monarch ATNS device.

So the Firefly system is working with Monarch not only to screen for whether it's appropriate to start in the first place, but to actually do some of the follow-ups to find out if it's working.

Correct.