Oct 5, 2026 · 30 min · 8 segments
Tim Hwang and Rachel Reses are joined by FAI Non-Resident Senior Fellow and Bismarck Analysis president and founder…
Samo BurjaGuest
Tim HwangHostRachel ResesHost
If you talk to people at any point in past human history, they would have found deeply confusing some of the categories that we use today.

When the dictatorship of the Roman Empire was emerging, it called itself a republic.

When the joint stock corporation was first emerging, it called itself a Christian brotherhood.

If you were in the Dutch Republic, you might open a corporate board meeting with a prayer.

And it was understood to be this sort of like fellowship for improving the world in an almost Protestant worshipful way.

But I think, why is that so important? Well, whenever you have a technological change that is very profound, the substance of an organization changes.

So it's not even what should frontier labs be, which is, I think, where people are still stuck.

It's more, what are they evolving into and at what pace? And with regard to that question, I think a lot rests, unsurprisingly, on the AI itself, on the development of, well, I guess now we're calling it supreme intelligence.

If you talk to people at any point in past human history, they would have found deeply confusing some of the categories that we use today.

When the dictatorship of the Roman Empire was emerging, it called itself a republic.

When the joint stock corporation was first emerging, it called itself a Christian brotherhood.

If you were in the Dutch Republic, you might open a corporate board meeting with a prayer.

And it was understood to be this sort of like fellowship for improving the world in an almost Protestant worshipful way.

But I think, why is that so important? Well, whenever you have a technological change that is very profound, the substance of an organization changes.

So it's not even what should frontier labs be, which is, I think, where people are still stuck.

It's more, what are they evolving into and at what pace? And with regard to that question, I think a lot rests, unsurprisingly, on the AI itself, on the development of, well, I guess now we're calling it supreme intelligence.
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