Suburbs with Jonathan Bray

Hello, thanks for having me on.

No, I'm so glad you c- I, I have to admit, I'm a bit worried about this conversation.

We've got, we've got a, an amount of time in the diary, you know.

We don't, we don't want to, we don't want to bore my listeners, but I've got a horrible feeling I could talk about this for hours.

Your report is fascinating.

There are so many examples.

I, I apologize now, um, if this runs on for, you know, the rest of the day.

Yeah, it's a, a sprawling topic, and it's a very tough topic.

I think when we talk about transport, we tend to think about city centers in our minds, but as you say, most people don't live there.

And it's hard changing transport in cities, uh, city centers for the better, but those problems are magnified in the suburbs.

Especially when in some ways there's no such thing as the suburbs as a whole.

Again, I think we tend to think of the classic English 1930s semi, but, uh, we've also got much denser Victorian suburbs.

So the challenges and the potential solutions are difficult.

So it's a, a huge challenge.

But then if we're serious about decarbonization, we can't just pick and choose the easier stuff.

We've got to look at the more difficult terrain as well.

Hello, thanks for having me on.

No, I'm so glad you c- I, I have to admit, I'm a bit worried about this conversation.

We've got, we've got a, an amount of time in the diary, you know.

We don't, we don't want to, we don't want to bore my listeners, but I've got a horrible feeling I could talk about this for hours.

Your report is fascinating.

There are so many examples.

I, I apologize now, um, if this runs on for, you know, the rest of the day.

Yeah, it's a, a sprawling topic, and it's a very tough topic.

I think when we talk about transport, we tend to think about city centers in our minds, but as you say, most people don't live there.

And it's hard changing transport in cities, uh, city centers for the better, but those problems are magnified in the suburbs.

Especially when in some ways there's no such thing as the suburbs as a whole.

Again, I think we tend to think of the classic English 1930s semi, but, uh, we've also got much denser Victorian suburbs.

So the challenges and the potential solutions are difficult.

So it's a, a huge challenge.

But then if we're serious about decarbonization, we can't just pick and choose the easier stuff.

We've got to look at the more difficult terrain as well.