Sep 11, 2026 · 57 min · 11 segments
Self-publishing a cookbook and driving 13,000 pre-sales, growing to over 3 million followers on social media, and prioritizing learning as a creator with Justin Ellen from Everything Just Baked…
Bjork OstromHost
Justin EllenGuest
Two things that I think are important within that, we talked about this idea of ready, fire, aim, as opposed to ready, aim, fire.

And I think if you get stuck in ready, aim, fire, a lot of what we hear people do is like they aim.

As opposed to if you like ready, fire, aim, you're like, oh, I missed way to the left.

The quicker that we publish something, the quicker that we get feedback, the more that we compress the feedback loop around what we're doing.

And then the second piece that I think is really important is kind of this philosophy, maybe this mindset, which it seems like what you're alluding to a little bit, which is like if somebody else can do it, there's probably something that I can learn from them in terms of what they did, how they did it.

You're not gonna replicate it and do the exact same thing, but you are gonna look at it and say like, oh, I see this person is like showing up on camera quite a bit.

And the other thing that they're doing is they're, who knows, like leading with a really strong hook on a video within the first three seconds, okay? Maybe I need to like adjust that a little bit.

And you are simultaneously learning Compressing the frequency of your publishing while also learning from other people who are where you want to be.

And I think those two things paired together can be a really successful playbook for somebody who's looking to build a creator business.

Do you have an example of what that looked like for you? Like on a certain platform, learning a certain thing that worked well, implementing it and then seeing the benefit of it and knowing it's all incremental.

It's not like some huge breakthrough, but if you have a thousand little incremental breakthroughs, it's going to compound.

Do you have some examples of maybe what those little compounding moments look like for you? Yeah, and that's

Two things that I think are important within that, we talked about this idea of ready, fire, aim, as opposed to ready, aim, fire.

And I think if you get stuck in ready, aim, fire, a lot of what we hear people do is like they aim.

As opposed to if you like ready, fire, aim, you're like, oh, I missed way to the left.

The quicker that we publish something, the quicker that we get feedback, the more that we compress the feedback loop around what we're doing.

And then the second piece that I think is really important is kind of this philosophy, maybe this mindset, which it seems like what you're alluding to a little bit, which is like if somebody else can do it, there's probably something that I can learn from them in terms of what they did, how they did it.

You're not gonna replicate it and do the exact same thing, but you are gonna look at it and say like, oh, I see this person is like showing up on camera quite a bit.

And the other thing that they're doing is they're, who knows, like leading with a really strong hook on a video within the first three seconds, okay? Maybe I need to like adjust that a little bit.

And you are simultaneously learning Compressing the frequency of your publishing while also learning from other people who are where you want to be.

And I think those two things paired together can be a really successful playbook for somebody who's looking to build a creator business.

Do you have an example of what that looked like for you? Like on a certain platform, learning a certain thing that worked well, implementing it and then seeing the benefit of it and knowing it's all incremental.

It's not like some huge breakthrough, but if you have a thousand little incremental breakthroughs, it's going to compound.

Do you have some examples of maybe what those little compounding moments look like for you? Yeah, and that's
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