Jul 30, 2026 · 29 min · 12 segments
We just passed the halfway point of the year, which means one of two things: you're right on track, or you're staring down a list of January goals you haven't looked at since. This week I'm joined by…
Katherine Mackenzie-SmithGuestKylie KellyHostAnd what I picked up most when you were just explaining that is that permission piece, right? Which I think it takes a long time to give ourselves permission.
It's easy to say that, right? But then when we're getting all this stuff thrown at us, when we're starting out about what we need to be doing and that we need to be posting three times a day and we need to be sending these emails and blah, blah, blah.
When that's all being thrown at us, it's really hard to stop, isn't it? And be like, huh, I don't have to do that.
And for so many of us who grew up as the good girl and that's such a big part of our identity, taking cues from what we've been conditioned to follow and behave.
The unraveling it takes when you start your own business and you realize like, oh, I'm the start and end point of stuff happening versus, you know, your whole life you've been trained to follow the rules and do things this way and follow the instructions.
And then all of a sudden you start your own business and the natural instinct is to turn to people who have done something like what you're trying to do before and follow their process.
But what we don't realize after potentially decades of learning someone else's systems is that they don't always take our needs into consideration.
And so we go from doing that at school and then in the workplace and then starting a business to just be naturally gravitating to listen to somebody else.
And I just got to this point for myself where I realized like nothing has ever fully accommodated or supported me.
Why would somebody else's business system or model necessarily work for me? And yet we do need to be discerning about that, but also like super aware of the facts that we do look to others for the rules.
And I know so many of us are like that good girl, A plus student kind of identity.
So it's such a big awareness piece, I think, when you start to realize that maybe I don't have to do what everybody is saying I should be doing.
And what I picked up most when you were just explaining that is that permission piece, right? Which I think it takes a long time to give ourselves permission.
It's easy to say that, right? But then when we're getting all this stuff thrown at us, when we're starting out about what we need to be doing and that we need to be posting three times a day and we need to be sending these emails and blah, blah, blah.
When that's all being thrown at us, it's really hard to stop, isn't it? And be like, huh, I don't have to do that.
And for so many of us who grew up as the good girl and that's such a big part of our identity, taking cues from what we've been conditioned to follow and behave.
The unraveling it takes when you start your own business and you realize like, oh, I'm the start and end point of stuff happening versus, you know, your whole life you've been trained to follow the rules and do things this way and follow the instructions.
And then all of a sudden you start your own business and the natural instinct is to turn to people who have done something like what you're trying to do before and follow their process.
But what we don't realize after potentially decades of learning someone else's systems is that they don't always take our needs into consideration.
And so we go from doing that at school and then in the workplace and then starting a business to just be naturally gravitating to listen to somebody else.
And I just got to this point for myself where I realized like nothing has ever fully accommodated or supported me.
Why would somebody else's business system or model necessarily work for me? And yet we do need to be discerning about that, but also like super aware of the facts that we do look to others for the rules.
And I know so many of us are like that good girl, A plus student kind of identity.
So it's such a big awareness piece, I think, when you start to realize that maybe I don't have to do what everybody is saying I should be doing.
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