Sep 7, 2026 · 1 hr 16 min · 12 segments
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Ammar Ali JanGuest
Sina RahmaniHost
Adeem SuhailGuest
Well, we, we've been, uh, we've been pr- talking about this episode for a little bit.

In, in conclusion, Pakistan is made of many... made up of many contradictions, is what the essay would say.

And you can, [laughs] you can never, you can never have enough content about Pakistan.

And forget the inside of the country, in terms of its geopolitical orientation to me is like, just yesterday I heard they were, like, seeking 10 billion from the US or something, and you just know that's never gonna get paid back, [laughs] which is amazing.

So maybe you guys, I want you guys to do most of the, most of the talking for this one, 'cause there's so much happening.

And I'm obviously, uh, more plugged into the Iranian stuff, but Pakistan is a key player in everything that's been happening.

Um, and on top of that, it is, it does play this weird role of being friends with everyone somehow.

... with all the parties that are acting, and that are at war with each other, which is to say, not friends with everyone.

But it's a, this unique ability of Pakistan to navigate these geopolitical crises, um, and, you know, emerge as, and continue on in its, in its position.

Take, take some time, take a few minutes, and give us what each of you feels like, where, what is the state of Pakistan in the world right now? Like, how would you...

Is there a, is there a geo- is there, like, a geopolitics term that would apply to Pakistan? I don't think so.

Well, we, we've been, uh, we've been pr- talking about this episode for a little bit.

In, in conclusion, Pakistan is made of many... made up of many contradictions, is what the essay would say.

And you can, [laughs] you can never, you can never have enough content about Pakistan.

And forget the inside of the country, in terms of its geopolitical orientation to me is like, just yesterday I heard they were, like, seeking 10 billion from the US or something, and you just know that's never gonna get paid back, [laughs] which is amazing.

So maybe you guys, I want you guys to do most of the, most of the talking for this one, 'cause there's so much happening.

And I'm obviously, uh, more plugged into the Iranian stuff, but Pakistan is a key player in everything that's been happening.

Um, and on top of that, it is, it does play this weird role of being friends with everyone somehow.

... with all the parties that are acting, and that are at war with each other, which is to say, not friends with everyone.

But it's a, this unique ability of Pakistan to navigate these geopolitical crises, um, and, you know, emerge as, and continue on in its, in its position.

Take, take some time, take a few minutes, and give us what each of you feels like, where, what is the state of Pakistan in the world right now? Like, how would you...

Is there a, is there a geo- is there, like, a geopolitics term that would apply to Pakistan? I don't think so.
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