Jul 28, 2026 · 7 min · 5 segments
What’s the real difference between Tommy Robinson and Douglas Murray? In this fascinating and highly nuanced conversation, the late New Culture Forum founder Peter Whittle joins Andrew Gold to explain…
Peter WhittleGuest
Andrew GoldHost
Do you think that people might listen more to him than Tommy Robinson, even if they give out some semblance of the same message due to class, perhaps?

Would they listen to him more? Yeah, might he make more indents? I think possibly, because the thing is that And I don't mean to be negative about this, but demonstrations are important, you know, I mean, protests and demonstration, but they only take you so far.

You know, if you can reach people by bestselling book, um, then I think that that is, you know,

I think he has had a book out just now, Tommy, which he tweeted as being from prison, I think.

I don't know, you never know with these number one categories what that really means, but I think a lot of people will be reading it.


I think what's gone against, uh, Tommy Robinson for, which is the most disgraceful reason, uh, is, uh, you know, he's working class.

Uh, and I think that basically, um, They are, working class people in Britain now, are the most demonized.

And essentially, we've seen the reemergence, or maybe it was always there, of outright snobbery, right? um and you see it well we've talked about you know the deplorables and the and the garbage it was the american people were caught by the democrats you've had the same sort of thing here i was very heavily involved in the brexit uh campaign and uh anyone will tell you i mean basically people vote for bigots you're racist you're thick um you know, we've got college degrees, how many college degrees have you got? It literally came down to that.

Journalists, the most over-educated, journalists like us, I suppose, the most over-educated profession, all the college degrees.

It just means actually you've had a, you know, basically you've been through the indoctrination process.

Do you think that people might listen more to him than Tommy Robinson, even if they give out some semblance of the same message due to class, perhaps?

Would they listen to him more? Yeah, might he make more indents? I think possibly, because the thing is that And I don't mean to be negative about this, but demonstrations are important, you know, I mean, protests and demonstration, but they only take you so far.

You know, if you can reach people by bestselling book, um, then I think that that is, you know,

I think he has had a book out just now, Tommy, which he tweeted as being from prison, I think.

I don't know, you never know with these number one categories what that really means, but I think a lot of people will be reading it.


I think what's gone against, uh, Tommy Robinson for, which is the most disgraceful reason, uh, is, uh, you know, he's working class.

Uh, and I think that basically, um, They are, working class people in Britain now, are the most demonized.

And essentially, we've seen the reemergence, or maybe it was always there, of outright snobbery, right? um and you see it well we've talked about you know the deplorables and the and the garbage it was the american people were caught by the democrats you've had the same sort of thing here i was very heavily involved in the brexit uh campaign and uh anyone will tell you i mean basically people vote for bigots you're racist you're thick um you know, we've got college degrees, how many college degrees have you got? It literally came down to that.

Journalists, the most over-educated, journalists like us, I suppose, the most over-educated profession, all the college degrees.

It just means actually you've had a, you know, basically you've been through the indoctrination process.
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