The Burn Podcast by Ben Newman
Oct 5, 2026 · 28 min · 10 segments
In this episode of The Burn Podcast, Ben Newman sits down with legendary former FBI hostage negotiator Chris Voss for a powerful conversation about pressure, mental toughness, leadership, and the…
O- one of my coaches, she's been my coach for the last 20 years, and you know, another one of my coaches is 10 years younger than me and we, you know, we tend to- to coach each other, and I believe that to really be great, we have to be able to look at that mirror of accountability and say, "There's areas I need to work on." It's one of the things I love and- and when you're speaking of your community to specifically say, "We are going to practice on negotiation." And that's why a lot of times people say, "Why do you bring people on your show that have other communities and other offerings and other coaching opportunities?" It's because, look, I am not the former FBI lead international negotiator.
And so, like, I- I- I believe that people, you have to remain open to all of the coaching, all the ways that we can improve, otherwise you're never gonna get better.
So please, everybody, I want you to, with what we're gonna put in the notes, the opportunities for you to become more familiar with Chris's community.
I want you guys to be able to do that because just if one of you that's listening, hundreds of you that are listening, where in some capacity, whether it's our Standard Elite Mastermind or Uncommon Live, we're working in a coaching capacity.
Um, and- and one of the areas where we've been working, but I'd love to hear it from you I, I, I've, I've just been challenging people to be honest with themselves about the negotiations, not with other people, but they're having with themselves to not do what they need to do.
Why is that so important during these times when, whether it be media or politics, people seem conflicted, they don't wanna take action.
How do they win that game with their mind or that negotiation with themselves, Chris?
So the, the sp- uh, you're always gonna be the greatest negotiator against yourself.
The self-defeating behavior is very hard, and avoiding it is very much like hygiene.
Well, but wait a minute, didn't you brush your teeth last night and yesterday morning? Yeah, you gotta keep at it.
So the negotiation with yourself is something that i- it has to be part of your daily practice.
O- one of my coaches, she's been my coach for the last 20 years, and you know, another one of my coaches is 10 years younger than me and we, you know, we tend to- to coach each other, and I believe that to really be great, we have to be able to look at that mirror of accountability and say, "There's areas I need to work on." It's one of the things I love and- and when you're speaking of your community to specifically say, "We are going to practice on negotiation." And that's why a lot of times people say, "Why do you bring people on your show that have other communities and other offerings and other coaching opportunities?" It's because, look, I am not the former FBI lead international negotiator.
And so, like, I- I- I believe that people, you have to remain open to all of the coaching, all the ways that we can improve, otherwise you're never gonna get better.
So please, everybody, I want you to, with what we're gonna put in the notes, the opportunities for you to become more familiar with Chris's community.
I want you guys to be able to do that because just if one of you that's listening, hundreds of you that are listening, where in some capacity, whether it's our Standard Elite Mastermind or Uncommon Live, we're working in a coaching capacity.
Um, and- and one of the areas where we've been working, but I'd love to hear it from you I, I, I've, I've just been challenging people to be honest with themselves about the negotiations, not with other people, but they're having with themselves to not do what they need to do.
Why is that so important during these times when, whether it be media or politics, people seem conflicted, they don't wanna take action.
How do they win that game with their mind or that negotiation with themselves, Chris?
So the, the sp- uh, you're always gonna be the greatest negotiator against yourself.
The self-defeating behavior is very hard, and avoiding it is very much like hygiene.
Well, but wait a minute, didn't you brush your teeth last night and yesterday morning? Yeah, you gotta keep at it.
So the negotiation with yourself is something that i- it has to be part of your daily practice.
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