EP 224: The Coaching Mindset Behind Great Hiring

Yeah, I hear you.

What did you like in terms of a performance standpoint as an athlete and then as a coach and pulling from your time at university and I suppose even more recently right coaching the kids but

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I'm wondering like What are your thoughts on performance coaching and helping people reach their potential when it comes to something super competitive? Just curious how you that I'm assuming that probably translates into how you think about leading and managing in the corporate world, right? Like, how do you help people navigate challenges and reach their potential in competitive environments? Does anything stand out to you?

Of course.

I think once a coach, always a coach.

I've always been the type of coach that's always favored hard work over natural talent.

I think that translates to how I recruit as well, especially for a startup.

Because Every six months, even maybe less than time, the startups, the phases, it's a different cycle and things change.

So the folks that have been here a long time are the ones that are able to consistently work hard and adapt to these different phases of growth.

Sometimes you get talent for that specific moment and it's wonderful and it's impactful, but shortly after things have changed and it's no longer efficient or effective.

So I would say coaching usually comes in two spots for me.

in my work, number one is usually during candidate conversations.

I don't think there's anything more competitive than being in a job interview cycle.

It's a series of games that you have to win to get an offer.

But also at the same time, you're really looking at making a thoughtful career choice for yourself as well.

So I've had many conversations, and I'm sure many recruiters are in the same spot where you... find yourself becoming almost like a job coach or career coach or a coach to the candidates, especially when you are quick to realize this may not be a fit.

So you usually find yourself coaching them on like how they're thinking about their next role, their opportunity, like how they're interviewing.

So coaching kicks in there.

And then I think for my current team, I love being a coach and thankfully they're receptive to the way I coach them too.

And so I, I try to coach for different situations.

They're obviously very talented in their own right.

But I've also had great coaches in my life show me how to approach, you know, coaching different types of people, right? Like you said, how you coach women is going to be different from how you coach men.

It's going to be different from how you coach 12-year-olds, right? And so it is very situation dependent, but it does come up often.