A focus on the future at APC

### CEO of the Australian Pharmacy Council Bronwyn Clark sits down with AJP Podcast host Carlene McMaugh to talk about full scope, training, interprofessional collaboration and more “Full scope is obviously super, super important and very exciting time for us here in Australia,” Clark says. “So our role at the APC is to be the national accreditation and standard setting body for education and training for pharmacists. “And so when we are looking at how we can support full scope, it’s really top of mind for us and we’re putting a lot of work and effort into collaborating with people to do this work. “I think the key thing around the challenges with these programs has been around making sure that we have graduates who have the right level of competence and capability to be able to deliver full scope and prescribing regardless of where they are.” #### Highlights include 01:40 – The biggest challenges in creating agile standards 04:50 – Will accreditation be applied nationally? 06:05 – “It will be a bit like optometry.” 11:10 – Harmonising the standards 15:46 – Could the traditional four-year plus internship model be replaced? 20:46 – Ensuring potential new programs are rigorous 23:21 – A new set of learning models for preceptors and supervisors 26:17 – Changes to the intern written exam 28:22 – “You’re actually assessing someone’s competence as opposed to their ability to remember.” 30:19 – The colloquium and its focus on respectful, inclusive conversations 34:41 – Changes to accreditation for CPD activities 37:35 – Does this shift create uncertainty? 39:19 – “The APC is very committed to this strategy of embedding cultural safety” 42:37 – The APC is nominated as a finalist in the leading tech awards in Australia 45:08 – The workforce crisis *You can access the full transcript of this podcast here. While we endeavour to ensure all important words and phrases are correct, please note there may be some minor inaccuracies in the transcription.* ACCESS PODCAST TRANSCRIPT Go here for the full list of active *AJP podcasts*. These can also be accessed via Apple Podcasts and Spotify  Carlene McMaugh