May 31, 2026 · 43 min · 10 segments
We discuss the how painting elephants has paved the way to discussions about oppression
Jayshree GeorgeGuest
Naveed ZamaniHost
This season, I'm asking interviewees for a story about a time that they feel they failed and what they learned.

So yeah, thanks again for being here, and I'll turn to you to hear about some of your stories and work.

Um, so failure, failure is often a very interesting phenomenon because I think as much, uh, as unpleasant as it can be, it also has the potential to provide openings.

This season, I'm asking interviewees for a story about a time that they feel they failed and what they learned.

So yeah, thanks again for being here, and I'll turn to you to hear about some of your stories and work.

Um, so failure, failure is often a very interesting phenomenon because I think as much, uh, as unpleasant as it can be, it also has the potential to provide openings.
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