Sep 2, 2026 · 54 min · 14 segments
In this episode of *That Western Life*, Katie sits down with Rizpah Bellard, founder of Nova Farming, for a conversation that stretches far beyond cattle. Raised on a Black Angus ranch in Northern…
Rizpah BellardGuest
Katie SchrockHost
For our listeners, they're probably like, oh my gosh, right now, can you layman's term kind of explain even like what that looks like for day to day? Because I think you're going to spark, there's a lot of conversation about this in the world at large and in the Western industry right now.

I think we can spark some potential new students in these universities to study these issues that are happening based off of what you know.

Yeah, so a lot of my understanding of trafficking, both for labor and sex, it's push-pull factors, right? So let's say if we're talking about agricultural labor trafficking, the push factor for folks who go into these spaces where they end up being trafficked or taken advantage of, the push is money, right? The push is they need money or they need an opportunity or they may not be a legal citizen, so they have to find some type of under-the-counter money, right, under-the-counter pay.

And then what happens is you have predators, and it's both in sex and labor trafficking, there's predators who are taking advantage of people.

So a predator can be the employer, it can be a John who's a buyer in the sex space, it can be like a pimp in the sex space as well, somebody who's like a romance boyfriend or we call them Romeos, somebody who's acting like they love the girl or guy who's gonna go into the sex trafficking space.

So there's a lot of factors at play And a lot of times it's an accident that people fall into these worlds or spaces of trafficking.

But there's also the understanding of it's kind of like the domestic violence circle.

They fall prey to like the relationship that's held or a Stockholm syndrome or something like that.

OK, they hit me once, but then they said they really love me and they gave me food the next time.

So trying to figure out what do I do? And then also you have language barriers for folks who don't speak English.

For our listeners, they're probably like, oh my gosh, right now, can you layman's term kind of explain even like what that looks like for day to day? Because I think you're going to spark, there's a lot of conversation about this in the world at large and in the Western industry right now.

I think we can spark some potential new students in these universities to study these issues that are happening based off of what you know.

Yeah, so a lot of my understanding of trafficking, both for labor and sex, it's push-pull factors, right? So let's say if we're talking about agricultural labor trafficking, the push factor for folks who go into these spaces where they end up being trafficked or taken advantage of, the push is money, right? The push is they need money or they need an opportunity or they may not be a legal citizen, so they have to find some type of under-the-counter money, right, under-the-counter pay.

And then what happens is you have predators, and it's both in sex and labor trafficking, there's predators who are taking advantage of people.

So a predator can be the employer, it can be a John who's a buyer in the sex space, it can be like a pimp in the sex space as well, somebody who's like a romance boyfriend or we call them Romeos, somebody who's acting like they love the girl or guy who's gonna go into the sex trafficking space.

So there's a lot of factors at play And a lot of times it's an accident that people fall into these worlds or spaces of trafficking.

But there's also the understanding of it's kind of like the domestic violence circle.

They fall prey to like the relationship that's held or a Stockholm syndrome or something like that.

OK, they hit me once, but then they said they really love me and they gave me food the next time.

So trying to figure out what do I do? And then also you have language barriers for folks who don't speak English.
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