Oct 15, 2026 · 22 min · 9 segments
Internationalism is so important to life, universities and the development of knowledge. This week, Priscilla and Tara talk about the gift and power of internationalization, even - particularly - in…
Priscilla Dunk-WestGuest
Tara BrabazonHost
Like for myself, if I think about it from my perspective, I love being in that liminal space or the fringe dwelling space of being on the outside of a culture and learning and, and it being an opportunity for me to think about, huh, how have I arrived at this, you know, position in terms of how I view research? How, how have I, um, thought about education and what are the kind of nuance differences that might exist in this particular context? So I really l- love that.

I think it is a gift, and I think it's a gift that enables us to be probably better educators and researchers because of that position of ourselves as sort of on the edge and on the outside.

And then it has you, I think, being in that position, thinking about your own, reflecting on your own education and-

... and the sort of national context within which your education took place.

So I think it is a gift, notwithstanding all of the tricky situations you get into.

I remember once about to teach a class [chuckles] and asking colleagues, "Has anybody got a texta? Has anybody got a texta?" You know-

And I, I, I remember I hadn't even thought of what the actual word is for a texta, which is a felt pen or a sort of...

See, I still don't have any words because we just call it a texta, which is actually a brand.

So teaching in the same language but having completely different, you know, norms, cultural contexts, language conventions, um, can be really interesting and fun and, you know, en- enable us to sort of, um, I think really come at it from a different position that we would if we were only looking inside and only looking, you know, at, at our teaching in that sort of bubble of familiarity.

Look, it's a great Bell Hooks moment, I always think, that the, you know, being in and on the margin is so great, and there's something powerful, and I've done it a few times, you have too, where you land in a place and you don't know a soul.

Like for myself, if I think about it from my perspective, I love being in that liminal space or the fringe dwelling space of being on the outside of a culture and learning and, and it being an opportunity for me to think about, huh, how have I arrived at this, you know, position in terms of how I view research? How, how have I, um, thought about education and what are the kind of nuance differences that might exist in this particular context? So I really l- love that.

I think it is a gift, and I think it's a gift that enables us to be probably better educators and researchers because of that position of ourselves as sort of on the edge and on the outside.

And then it has you, I think, being in that position, thinking about your own, reflecting on your own education and-

... and the sort of national context within which your education took place.

So I think it is a gift, notwithstanding all of the tricky situations you get into.

I remember once about to teach a class [chuckles] and asking colleagues, "Has anybody got a texta? Has anybody got a texta?" You know-

And I, I, I remember I hadn't even thought of what the actual word is for a texta, which is a felt pen or a sort of...

See, I still don't have any words because we just call it a texta, which is actually a brand.

So teaching in the same language but having completely different, you know, norms, cultural contexts, language conventions, um, can be really interesting and fun and, you know, en- enable us to sort of, um, I think really come at it from a different position that we would if we were only looking inside and only looking, you know, at, at our teaching in that sort of bubble of familiarity.

Look, it's a great Bell Hooks moment, I always think, that the, you know, being in and on the margin is so great, and there's something powerful, and I've done it a few times, you have too, where you land in a place and you don't know a soul.
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