Sep 28, 2026 · 32 min · 7 segments
With Labour conference underway, Foreign Secretary Ed Miliband announced a key foreign policy reset, banning imports from illegal settlements, while Home Secretary Shabana Mahmood unveiled legal…
Petrie HoskenHostAndrew HoskenGuest
Have we lost our compassion, particularly when it pertains to refugees and migrants coming to this country? Now, if you say yes, I don't blame you, by the way, because the news is always full of how awful everything is and also the governments have let us down in many, many ways with not rebuilding infrastructure to support new populations of people, with not asking people to assimilate properly, not giving them the support that they need to do that and creating ghettoization.

She's saying we need to live up to our international obligations and save the lives of those fleeing war and persecution.

But I also know this process must be capped and controlled with communities ready and able to welcome those victims.

that come here for that reason, I can announce today that from next month we will begin accepting applications from charities and non-profits to sponsor refugees through our new safe and legal routes.

She also says the government will reopen the UK resettlement route in partnership with the United Nations.

We will take vulnerable refugees from across the world and give them a chance for a new and better life here in Britain with the first arrivals this year.

I'm proud to say that around a quarter will be Afghan women and girls fleeing persecution under the Taliban and Palestinians who have fled the horrors of of Gaza.

We restore control to our borders and bear down on small boats crossings and unlock the inherent generosity of this country.

Have we still got that compassion? Do we still think that there are people that we should rescue and support? I mean, the women in Afghanistan have brutally been let down by America, by Britain, just handing them over to the Taliban.

Would you have compassion for a selection of those women and girls coming to the UK? Or would you say, no, no, not until the boats have stopped, not until...

I mean, the legal migration numbers have come down, net migration has come down, things like that.

But is it enough for you to start having compassion for those who need it? Because a lot of people I speak to will say, well, they're genuine refugees.

Yeah, genuine refugees I do, but we don't know who these people are, so we don't have compassion for them.

Have we lost our compassion, particularly when it pertains to refugees and migrants coming to this country? Now, if you say yes, I don't blame you, by the way, because the news is always full of how awful everything is and also the governments have let us down in many, many ways with not rebuilding infrastructure to support new populations of people, with not asking people to assimilate properly, not giving them the support that they need to do that and creating ghettoization.

She's saying we need to live up to our international obligations and save the lives of those fleeing war and persecution.

But I also know this process must be capped and controlled with communities ready and able to welcome those victims.

that come here for that reason, I can announce today that from next month we will begin accepting applications from charities and non-profits to sponsor refugees through our new safe and legal routes.

She also says the government will reopen the UK resettlement route in partnership with the United Nations.

We will take vulnerable refugees from across the world and give them a chance for a new and better life here in Britain with the first arrivals this year.

I'm proud to say that around a quarter will be Afghan women and girls fleeing persecution under the Taliban and Palestinians who have fled the horrors of of Gaza.

We restore control to our borders and bear down on small boats crossings and unlock the inherent generosity of this country.

Have we still got that compassion? Do we still think that there are people that we should rescue and support? I mean, the women in Afghanistan have brutally been let down by America, by Britain, just handing them over to the Taliban.

Would you have compassion for a selection of those women and girls coming to the UK? Or would you say, no, no, not until the boats have stopped, not until...

I mean, the legal migration numbers have come down, net migration has come down, things like that.

But is it enough for you to start having compassion for those who need it? Because a lot of people I speak to will say, well, they're genuine refugees.

Yeah, genuine refugees I do, but we don't know who these people are, so we don't have compassion for them.
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