Sep 29, 2026 · 1 hr 16 min · 11 segments
Welcome to episode one of my new podcast series — **Object/ive Permanence** — where in one take, no edits, I chat with someone, the conversation is captured, and you can watch and/or listen to it. The…
Duncan SarkiesGuest
Simon SweetmanHost
But, like, you know, I don't want to go saying, like, we're friends and stuff, but I feel like I know you.

ish pretty well yeah and I feel like that's it but I feel like I've spent more time with you in the last couple of months than in the 20 years or so that I had been aware of you and I think I met you 20 years ago and you probably wouldn't have necessarily remembered that because it would have been after you were performing

Well, I would have been thinking of you as Simon Sweetman, the critic, and thinking of you with Jeremy from Slow Boat and those sort of naughty kids who said what they actually thought.

And it was so interesting, you know, because it's always an interesting conversation, critics

different now, that you would hold your views no matter what, but now that you're out there as a writer and getting up on stage, you'll have more empathy for people that are...

Whereas in the past, I would imagine you're more likely to punch up these days, but punching sideways or down is always a tricky area that...

as i was trying to get more and more things published in the realm of criticism and i found myself writing for the newspaper to begin with the only way i could write for the newspaper was by taking on all the things no one else wanted so that's how they that's how i got it oh so you were

So they were like, I emailed a couple of people and they're like, look, he obviously won't leave us alone.

Well, I think what you were saying, there is the thing of doing it myself, but there's also... you know, what are the avenues for criticism these days? That's changed.

But, like, you know, I don't want to go saying, like, we're friends and stuff, but I feel like I know you.

ish pretty well yeah and I feel like that's it but I feel like I've spent more time with you in the last couple of months than in the 20 years or so that I had been aware of you and I think I met you 20 years ago and you probably wouldn't have necessarily remembered that because it would have been after you were performing

Well, I would have been thinking of you as Simon Sweetman, the critic, and thinking of you with Jeremy from Slow Boat and those sort of naughty kids who said what they actually thought.

And it was so interesting, you know, because it's always an interesting conversation, critics

different now, that you would hold your views no matter what, but now that you're out there as a writer and getting up on stage, you'll have more empathy for people that are...

Whereas in the past, I would imagine you're more likely to punch up these days, but punching sideways or down is always a tricky area that...

as i was trying to get more and more things published in the realm of criticism and i found myself writing for the newspaper to begin with the only way i could write for the newspaper was by taking on all the things no one else wanted so that's how they that's how i got it oh so you were

So they were like, I emailed a couple of people and they're like, look, he obviously won't leave us alone.

Well, I think what you were saying, there is the thing of doing it myself, but there's also... you know, what are the avenues for criticism these days? That's changed.
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