Jul 14, 2026 · 57 min · 13 segments
On July 14, 2023, Fargo Police Officer Andrew Dotas was critically wounded in the ambush that claimed the life of Officer Jake Wallin, injured Officer Tyler Hawes and forever changed the Fargo Police…
Andrew DotasGuest
Brit MyersHost
Well, speaking of the learning side of things, you had, uh, an early introduction to Boulder Crest, which is kinda atypical of a lot of the people that we end up talking to and that we'll be talking to on this podcast, which is, um, I would say more often than not they've gone through Warrior Path or they've gone through a full five-day Struggle Well program.
But you had a little bit of this introduction to Boulder Crest, um, before you really, uh, had this, [chuckles] I don't know how else to describe it, like an immersive experience with-
So it, uh, it honestly all stemmed from that idea of, like, wanting to push myself.
So I joined our wellness team here at the police department, and it's kind of a secondary assignment where there's a, a group of us that are in charge of just finding different initiatives, different things that we can, uh, bring to the department to hopefully meet officers where they're at and kind of meet them in the, the spiritual, the financial, the personal, the physical wellness aspect.
Um, my role, uh, I'm kind of a cheapskate, uh, big with money and stuff like that, and so I got put in charge of the financial, uh, side of it, which I really enjoyed.
Um, but then this program came in and the Struggle Well one-day program came in, and I remember us talking about it as a group, and they were trying to just get as many people to go to the class as possible, um, just to kinda get a feel for what it was and, uh, things like that.
And I remember kind of talking with the group in our meeting that was leading up to this, and, uh, the thing that I had brought up is how do we ever convince others to go to it if we don't ourselves, um, you know, put ourselves out there and do it? The hard barrier that I had is I didn't feel like I was necessarily, like, in need of it.
I felt like right then and there it was like, um, you know, things were going well.
And so selfishly I just went to the Struggle Well program to, uh, to kinda get a feel for it and then hoping that I could be a facilitator if someone else was maybe struggling, that I could be like, "Hey, I went to this program.
Little did I know, um, you know, weeks later I would, I would end up i- involved in an ambush and, and kinda that would all change.
And that's what I was gonna point out is that I think it's actually, like, counter to being selfish.
I think the fact that you noticed at that time, like, I might not be the, you know, primary person to go through this.
There might be others who are struggling a little more right now, and this might not be my time to do this training, and I think that's totally okay that you were like, "Yeah, I think I'm, I'm good right now and I'd like to help somebody else," um, again, not knowing what was kinda waiting for you.
Well, speaking of the learning side of things, you had, uh, an early introduction to Boulder Crest, which is kinda atypical of a lot of the people that we end up talking to and that we'll be talking to on this podcast, which is, um, I would say more often than not they've gone through Warrior Path or they've gone through a full five-day Struggle Well program.
But you had a little bit of this introduction to Boulder Crest, um, before you really, uh, had this, [chuckles] I don't know how else to describe it, like an immersive experience with-
So it, uh, it honestly all stemmed from that idea of, like, wanting to push myself.
So I joined our wellness team here at the police department, and it's kind of a secondary assignment where there's a, a group of us that are in charge of just finding different initiatives, different things that we can, uh, bring to the department to hopefully meet officers where they're at and kind of meet them in the, the spiritual, the financial, the personal, the physical wellness aspect.
Um, my role, uh, I'm kind of a cheapskate, uh, big with money and stuff like that, and so I got put in charge of the financial, uh, side of it, which I really enjoyed.
Um, but then this program came in and the Struggle Well one-day program came in, and I remember us talking about it as a group, and they were trying to just get as many people to go to the class as possible, um, just to kinda get a feel for what it was and, uh, things like that.
And I remember kind of talking with the group in our meeting that was leading up to this, and, uh, the thing that I had brought up is how do we ever convince others to go to it if we don't ourselves, um, you know, put ourselves out there and do it? The hard barrier that I had is I didn't feel like I was necessarily, like, in need of it.
I felt like right then and there it was like, um, you know, things were going well.
And so selfishly I just went to the Struggle Well program to, uh, to kinda get a feel for it and then hoping that I could be a facilitator if someone else was maybe struggling, that I could be like, "Hey, I went to this program.
Little did I know, um, you know, weeks later I would, I would end up i- involved in an ambush and, and kinda that would all change.
And that's what I was gonna point out is that I think it's actually, like, counter to being selfish.
I think the fact that you noticed at that time, like, I might not be the, you know, primary person to go through this.
There might be others who are struggling a little more right now, and this might not be my time to do this training, and I think that's totally okay that you were like, "Yeah, I think I'm, I'm good right now and I'd like to help somebody else," um, again, not knowing what was kinda waiting for you.
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