Staying Human with Dr. Vivek Murthy
May 26, 2026 · 1 hr 14 min · 13 segments
What does it mean to feel joy amid moments of real difficulty and even sorrow? Not in the sense of being falsely upbeat or pretending that everything’s ok—but as a way to sit with and honor what’s…
Kate BowlerGuest
Vivek MurthyHost
Just seeing you makes me smile and brings me joy, which is what we're gonna talk about today, actually, which is joy.
But I'll tell you this, Kate, I've been wanting to talk to you for a while now about today's subject because I've been, [sighs] you know, I've been going through a lot, as you know, like in our family, in terms of health issues and a lot of unexpected challenges that we've had as a family in the last few months.
And I've been thinking that, you know, when you, when you go through something hard, that you start hearing from all kinds of people, like in your life, who are also going through hardship.
And it has just felt to me that there are so many people who are holding a lot right now and who are just struggling with how to find joy, find a reason to be hopeful and optimistic in their lives, in the world.
And that's why I think this conversation is really timely, because you've explored this question of how we can find joy in life and not to think of joy as something that we do after, you know, the hard stuff is over, the suffering has passed, but it's something that we find a way to do simultaneously.
Just seeing you makes me smile and brings me joy, which is what we're gonna talk about today, actually, which is joy.
But I'll tell you this, Kate, I've been wanting to talk to you for a while now about today's subject because I've been, [sighs] you know, I've been going through a lot, as you know, like in our family, in terms of health issues and a lot of unexpected challenges that we've had as a family in the last few months.
And I've been thinking that, you know, when you, when you go through something hard, that you start hearing from all kinds of people, like in your life, who are also going through hardship.
And it has just felt to me that there are so many people who are holding a lot right now and who are just struggling with how to find joy, find a reason to be hopeful and optimistic in their lives, in the world.
And that's why I think this conversation is really timely, because you've explored this question of how we can find joy in life and not to think of joy as something that we do after, you know, the hard stuff is over, the suffering has passed, but it's something that we find a way to do simultaneously.
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