Spiritual Unfoldment With John Butler
Jul 16, 2026 · 31 min · 10 segments
John & Phil share their experiences with AI - for good or for ill - starting with a discussion on an AI generated video about Einstein which they both watched. John asks whether any words of man are…
John ButlerHost
Phil ShanklandHost
Can you recall roughly the gist of, of what this band interview was about? It wasn't about E equals MC squared, for example, was it? [laughs]
That, that, that, that behind l- the primary influence behind all this creation is love.
If we come back to my favorite place, here and now, feet on the floor, listen and look, and find what I, I like to call these days this.
Now, as I get ever older and die out of this, the visible, you know, the visible, oral, speaking, thinking John Butler.
Body, mind, and everyth- and, and identity really is, is shrinking away, both in size and in volume and everything else.
This becomes ever more evident as the reality that's left, as what c- what endures beyond the grave.
And from this point of view, I use this, these words very carefully, point of view, because so much of our perception of life depends on our point of view.
Just as when we climb up a ladder or climb up a mountain, the higher you go, your point of view changes, doesn't it? From an airplane, you get a different point of view from down at the airport.
Can you recall roughly the gist of, of what this band interview was about? It wasn't about E equals MC squared, for example, was it? [laughs]
That, that, that, that behind l- the primary influence behind all this creation is love.
If we come back to my favorite place, here and now, feet on the floor, listen and look, and find what I, I like to call these days this.
Now, as I get ever older and die out of this, the visible, you know, the visible, oral, speaking, thinking John Butler.
Body, mind, and everyth- and, and identity really is, is shrinking away, both in size and in volume and everything else.
This becomes ever more evident as the reality that's left, as what c- what endures beyond the grave.
And from this point of view, I use this, these words very carefully, point of view, because so much of our perception of life depends on our point of view.
Just as when we climb up a ladder or climb up a mountain, the higher you go, your point of view changes, doesn't it? From an airplane, you get a different point of view from down at the airport.
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