So When Do I Take My Clothes Off?
Jun 21, 2026 · 46 min · 10 segments
In this episode, we sit down with journalist and author Monica Corcoran to discuss the conversation sparked by her viral article about women who are quietly leaving their marriages without actually…
Phyllis BergerHost
Monica CorcoranGuest
Susan FeldmanHost
I actually wonder how many men and women, actually, during the course of a long marriage, think, I really want to get out of this marriage.
don't for some very good reasons and also because it may be momentarily because they're being thwarted in some way or they're having a tough time not because it's necessarily globally a problem but that i wonder when you think about women quietly it's interesting focus just on women that quietly that's another thing men also quietly leave leave the marriage i don't
That's probably very true, because I think what happens with men is, generally speaking, they're able to fulfill the reasons, the emotional life maybe that makes women want to leave.
They fill it up in other ways that maybe doesn't make them feel so compelled to live.
And it's interesting, the word separately, because I guess what she's talking about in that article, and we'll obviously talk to her about it, but is not so much physically separated.
And I think women, which she doesn't really talk about here, but I think that's why it's women quietly leaving, because I think women want to resolve a situation more.
feel that they have more agency to be able to live a fulfilled life and don't want to, for whatever reasons, leave the marriage physically, whether it's financial or family reasons, I don't know, that you would get to that point.
But they feel like they have options is the point that maybe women 30 years ago didn't feel they have or 40 years ago didn't feel they have.
I actually wonder how many men and women, actually, during the course of a long marriage, think, I really want to get out of this marriage.
don't for some very good reasons and also because it may be momentarily because they're being thwarted in some way or they're having a tough time not because it's necessarily globally a problem but that i wonder when you think about women quietly it's interesting focus just on women that quietly that's another thing men also quietly leave leave the marriage i don't
That's probably very true, because I think what happens with men is, generally speaking, they're able to fulfill the reasons, the emotional life maybe that makes women want to leave.
They fill it up in other ways that maybe doesn't make them feel so compelled to live.
And it's interesting, the word separately, because I guess what she's talking about in that article, and we'll obviously talk to her about it, but is not so much physically separated.
And I think women, which she doesn't really talk about here, but I think that's why it's women quietly leaving, because I think women want to resolve a situation more.
feel that they have more agency to be able to live a fulfilled life and don't want to, for whatever reasons, leave the marriage physically, whether it's financial or family reasons, I don't know, that you would get to that point.
But they feel like they have options is the point that maybe women 30 years ago didn't feel they have or 40 years ago didn't feel they have.
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