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I still really love what I get to do, still.

Of course you do.

Still.

I just thought about doing a new restaurant this summer.

Did you really?

And I thought, yeah, and I was saying, you know, how hard-

I heard the restaurant business is very difficult.

Every job is hard, and I, you know, being a restaurant person or being a journalist-

Yeah, but some jobs are harder than others, Ruthie

I don't think...

Not real- Well, maybe they are.

Yeah, they are.

But I don't, I think the way you work in a, uh, the image of a restaurant, that old-fashioned male image of the angry chef-

And they're screaming

...

the bully, and they're screaming, and they have to get the food out.

I think back in the day people, like in the newsrooms, you had people throwing typewriters and screaming and hollering.

I, I just don't-

And in kitchens you had people burning people's hands, you know?

On purpose?

And they would punish chefs by s- you know, just getting the thing hot.

I have a chef-

Whoa

... that said she was taking, um, soufflés out of a oven here in London.

Yes.

I still really love what I get to do, still.

Of course you do.

Still.

I just thought about doing a new restaurant this summer.

Did you really?

And I thought, yeah, and I was saying, you know, how hard-

I heard the restaurant business is very difficult.

Every job is hard, and I, you know, being a restaurant person or being a journalist-

Yeah, but some jobs are harder than others, Ruthie

I don't think...

Not real- Well, maybe they are.

Yeah, they are.

But I don't, I think the way you work in a, uh, the image of a restaurant, that old-fashioned male image of the angry chef-

And they're screaming

...

the bully, and they're screaming, and they have to get the food out.

I think back in the day people, like in the newsrooms, you had people throwing typewriters and screaming and hollering.

I, I just don't-

And in kitchens you had people burning people's hands, you know?

On purpose?

And they would punish chefs by s- you know, just getting the thing hot.

I have a chef-

Whoa

... that said she was taking, um, soufflés out of a oven here in London.

Yes.