Sep 15, 2026 · 52 min · 9 segments
**Summary** In this episode, I interview my son Leon about his faith journey. He is a worship pastor at Saddleback Church, and he shares insights on growing up in a Christian home, overcoming doubts…
Leon AvramGuest
Rita HernandezHost
So what are other things that you remember about growing up in our home when it comes to discipleship?

Um, even into my teenage years, junior high, high school, you would come into my room and it didn't matter what type of day that I had had, whether it was a good day, a bad day, whether we had fought or I had done something wrong, you would always come in and you'd pray for me at night.

I remember when I was going to turn 13 specifically, um, I can't remember what it was called, but we did this whole study that was a story about a father and his son.

Um, it had like comic style drawings and it was just a cool devotion to do with you're going to church, obviously.

Um, sometimes we feel like it felt like we lived at church, um, Yeah, that's kind of what I remember.

It was just the culture of our family, right? That the center of our life was really church.

And school was also a big part of our family because you guys were coming with me.

So what are other things that you remember about growing up in our home when it comes to discipleship?

Um, even into my teenage years, junior high, high school, you would come into my room and it didn't matter what type of day that I had had, whether it was a good day, a bad day, whether we had fought or I had done something wrong, you would always come in and you'd pray for me at night.

I remember when I was going to turn 13 specifically, um, I can't remember what it was called, but we did this whole study that was a story about a father and his son.

Um, it had like comic style drawings and it was just a cool devotion to do with you're going to church, obviously.

Um, sometimes we feel like it felt like we lived at church, um, Yeah, that's kind of what I remember.

It was just the culture of our family, right? That the center of our life was really church.

And school was also a big part of our family because you guys were coming with me.
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