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Leon Avram

Leon Avram

Worship pastor at Saddleback Church San Diego, guest on the "Raising Children Who Love God" podcast (as Leon Avram / Leon Avram Hernández-Mellado).

Sep 15, 2026

22:40
for
22:40
breakfast, lunch and dinner.
22:42
Well, not breakfast, lunch and dinner, but every dinner was a Subway sandwich.
22:47
But that trip was it was amazing to have that experience with with dad.
22:56
i just remember being in awe of the experience of it being a hillsong conference i just couldn't believe that this is what church looked like in other places because i mean i had grown up with a very specific way of doing church and is the only way i had known for most of my life like i think My first 17, 18 years, I probably went to other churches, maybe like... three or four times like and it wasn't often it was always the same church so my way of church was very specific and my standards for church were very specific so seeing it was just felt like oh shoot there's levels to the way church it can be done and obviously growing up I was a huge when I when I did get saved I've always loved music and Hillsong United during that time was like at its peak and Their United We Stand album was anything, the only thing that every youth group in America and Mexico was playing at the time.
24:06
So I was a huge United fangirl and getting to see them and then finding out, that's how I found out that there was a college because they had a booth at the conference and kind of realizing, oh, they train you to do this.
24:24
You can do this for a living.

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30:47
So tell us a little bit about that.

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