Eating before kiddush

So the Rambam in Hilchot Shabbos brings down that a person is not allowed to eat anything or drink wine, from when Kiddush Hayayim, when the day becomes B'kodesh, until he makes Kiddush.

Once the day is over, you know how to eat anything, drink anything, or even do Malacha until you do Avdolah.

But the state in Rambam, If somebody wants to drink water, it's mutter.

And if he has eyes, let's say someone by mistake ate and drank, says the Rambam, that could be once he eat or drink, you're not allowed to make Kiddush anymore.

No.

So the Khyra, We have two chidushim in this Rambam.

Chidush number one that we find in the Rambam is that one is not allowed to eat anymore.

Now we could try to figure out what does it mean? Does chidush mean that it turns Shkir, is it says, when you're Mekadish Diyayim, Pashtos, it seems like it's happening on its own, not that you're doing it.

So we have to figure out exactly when that is.

And the second thing that the Maga Mishnah points out, is that you're allowed to drink water and that the Rambam is telling us that before Kiddush and Havdalah one is allowed to drink water.

Now what is the makar to this Rambam? So it's the Gemara brings down that you're not allowed to eat or drink wine or beer before Havdalah.

And the Gemara says that the very Rav Ashi in the house of the yeshiva of Rav Ashi, they weren't marked by drinking water.

So, says the Magan Mishnah, that the Rambam understood that this had to drink water before Havdalah, although that was only said by Havdalah, it's true by Kiddush also, and therefore the Rambam holds that a person is allowed to drink water before Kiddush, as I state in Magan Mishnah.

However, he says, that if you look in the shahzad, he was asked the Shayla if you're allowed to drink water before Kiddush.

And he says, that the Gemara says that it's asa litayim kaydim kiddush.

Asa litayim is mashman, not only is it asa to eat anything, but even to taste anything, including water, would be asa.

Ay, the Gemara says by Havdalah, that you're allowed to drink water.

He says in general, we're more makeable by Havdalah than by kiddush.

And this is another one of those kulas, that you're allowed to drink water before Havdalah, but you're not allowed to drink water before kiddush.

And he fears...

What?

The time clone just means anything that you're swallowing, that's already considered enough.

We will bring up your swallowing.

Who? Malfosh is spitting out.

Could be that's something else.