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And it's about... a company called Leslie's Pool Mart and it expanded nationwide from like a really regional or like local footprint.

And it basically went through all the machinations of growth and through the typical private equity go public playbook and It had survived ups and downs through various economic cycles.

And more recently, as of like 2026, the stocks below it all in 2021, the stock was over $33.

So it's basically, it was an article that says, This once very interesting company is now in the tank and here's what happened.

And of course, private equity being bad, private equity is roped into it because along the way, you know, it had been owned by, I think, two different stints of private equity groups, which employed, you know, various tactics around acquisitions of additional businesses in the pool space.

um and machinations of that and uses financial leverage and all those things to engineer returns so this is kind of an interesting article um but you know like it's pretty representative of a lot of companies out there that have these journeys you know going from one founder owner all the way to being listed on stock exchange and taken back private and circling the drain, so to speak.

this why PE gets a bad name? Is this like the scenario where PE gets a bad reputation?

I sense a pattern these days where these articles just basically cast a certain vibe or light on what's just basic PE.

business management, but that's tied to private equity tropes, right? Like, so use of leverage, cost cutting, shutting down stores, things like that.

It's like, that's not just relevant to private equity, you know? Large conglomerates do the same damn thing, even at a larger scale oftentimes.

Well, and the other part is really private equity brings, a lot of these businesses needed it.

Private equity looked at it and said, hey, we've got an opportunity here to really improve margins.

Now, sometimes it goes too far, but the other thing that private equity does, I think that one is they'll optimize, but with optimization, the risk is you then don't have a lot of, you know, the safety net removes in terms of cash.

And it's about... a company called Leslie's Pool Mart and it expanded nationwide from like a really regional or like local footprint.

And it basically went through all the machinations of growth and through the typical private equity go public playbook and It had survived ups and downs through various economic cycles.

And more recently, as of like 2026, the stocks below it all in 2021, the stock was over $33.

So it's basically, it was an article that says, This once very interesting company is now in the tank and here's what happened.

And of course, private equity being bad, private equity is roped into it because along the way, you know, it had been owned by, I think, two different stints of private equity groups, which employed, you know, various tactics around acquisitions of additional businesses in the pool space.

um and machinations of that and uses financial leverage and all those things to engineer returns so this is kind of an interesting article um but you know like it's pretty representative of a lot of companies out there that have these journeys you know going from one founder owner all the way to being listed on stock exchange and taken back private and circling the drain, so to speak.

this why PE gets a bad name? Is this like the scenario where PE gets a bad reputation?

I sense a pattern these days where these articles just basically cast a certain vibe or light on what's just basic PE.

business management, but that's tied to private equity tropes, right? Like, so use of leverage, cost cutting, shutting down stores, things like that.

It's like, that's not just relevant to private equity, you know? Large conglomerates do the same damn thing, even at a larger scale oftentimes.

Well, and the other part is really private equity brings, a lot of these businesses needed it.

Private equity looked at it and said, hey, we've got an opportunity here to really improve margins.

Now, sometimes it goes too far, but the other thing that private equity does, I think that one is they'll optimize, but with optimization, the risk is you then don't have a lot of, you know, the safety net removes in terms of cash.
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