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P&S ModCast 77 - Sniper Part 2

Sep 28, 2026 · 2 hr 37 min · 37 segments

This second half broadens into mindset, fieldcraft, capability, and culture. The panel emphasizes that the job is uncomfortable, demanding, and often poorly supported; the people who last are driven…

This second half broadens into mindset, fieldcraft, capability, and culture. The panel emphasizes that the job is uncomfortable, demanding, and often poorly supported; the people who last are driven by responsibility and resilience rather than the identity or appearance of being a sniper. They cover moving-target work, practical accuracy standards, realistic expectations for rifles and ammunition, compact precision rifles for urban or patrol use, and the value of competition and cross-training with civilian and law-enforcement shooters. The discussion also addresses risk-averse training cultures, maintaining a warfighting focus, healthy coping skills, and the importance of asking for help before stress becomes a failure point. Host: Matt Landfair Panel: Alex Hartmann Rick Labistre Matt Meckley Tarrol Peterson Adam Wilson Episode Sponsors: Blue Alpha Belts: https://www.bluealphabelts.com/ High Desert Cartridge: https://highdesertcartridge.com/ PHLster educational content: https://www.youtube.com/@PHLster Our Patreon can be found here: https://www.patreon.com/PrimaryandSecondary Primary & Secondary: Website: https://primaryandsecondary.com/ Facebook: https://facebook.com/primaryandsecondary/ Forum: https://primaryandsecondary.com/forum Complete Audio Podcasts: https://spreaker.com/show/primary-secondary-podcast Rumble: https://rumble.com/user/PrimaryandSecondary YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@PrimarySecondaryResurrection Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/primary-secondary-podcast--2585240/support.

This second half broadens into mindset, fieldcraft, capability, and culture. The panel emphasizes that the job is uncomfortable, demanding, and often poorly supported; the people who last are driven…

Supporting Service Members After Separation2:09 – 16:07

Tarrol PetersonPanelist

2:09

But, I mean, I think...

Tarrol PetersonPanelist

2:13

I've been kind of asked to change the pace, and I think I will.

Tarrol PetersonPanelist

2:19

On that note, this perfectly kind of segues into what can we do as guys who are out? And what do I do as one of the guys who's out? What can we do to help the guys who are still in? I work with the Army Sniper Association, and we put on the small event called the International Sniper Competition every year at Fort Benning.

Tarrol PetersonPanelist

2:44

the Army Sniper Association was founded 15 years ago with the whole idea that we were going to put on, put on a comp because the active duty guys at Fort Benning can't take any prizes whatsoever for the comp.

Tarrol PetersonPanelist

3:00

It can't come in their hands because guess what? They take a prize from a company, say a brand new rifle.

Tarrol PetersonPanelist

3:08

They can't pass that rifle on to, uh, It might seem like they're giving a $3,000, $4,000, $5,000 rifle to one of their buddies.

Tarrol PetersonPanelist

3:19

So that's why the Army Sniper Association is there.

Tarrol PetersonPanelist

3:22

Going with the Army Sniper Association, we've been doing a lot more outreach.

Tarrol PetersonPanelist

3:27

We have a whole veterans program going on right now of getting guys squared away with their VA.

Tarrol PetersonPanelist

3:35

I think everybody in this room probably has some sort of VA issue that they've had to deal with.

Tarrol PetersonPanelist

3:40

I got plenty of them.

Tarrol PetersonPanelist

3:42

I'm still going to the VA.

Tarrol PetersonPanelist

3:43

I go there probably once a month to deal with my stuff.

Tarrol PetersonPanelist

3:47

But new guys are getting out and guys are getting medicaled out.

Tarrol PetersonPanelist

3:51

We have a transition program to help them with their medical transition because guess what? They don't tell you and they don't want you to know what your rights are.

Tarrol PetersonPanelist

4:03

I've seen guys sign way too early and not get the benefits they should be getting.

Tarrol PetersonPanelist

4:10

So we help those guys.

Tarrol PetersonPanelist

4:11

We have a lawyer who actually helps them and knows the law.

Tarrol PetersonPanelist

4:15

She's a former JAG lawyer who knows the law and knows how to read it and write it and write the letters that you need.

Tarrol PetersonPanelist

4:22

So anybody out there who's an Army guy or maybe a guy Marine, whatever, and you're getting ready to get medicaled out or you're getting out of the military, a sniper, Army Sniper Association will help you out.

Tarrol PetersonPanelist

4:41

We'll make sure that you...

Tarrol PetersonPanelist

4:44

So when you do your VA stuff, it goes smoothly as it possibly can.

Tarrol PetersonPanelist

4:50

Be out there as smoothly as it possibly can.

Tarrol PetersonPanelist

4:52

And we get you the right benefits that you deserve.

Tarrol PetersonPanelist

4:54

I mean, you put your time in, did your stuff, you fell off that cliff, you broke your ankle, whatever.

Supporting Service Members After Separation2:09 – 16:07

Tarrol PetersonPanelist

2:09

But, I mean, I think...

Tarrol PetersonPanelist

2:13

I've been kind of asked to change the pace, and I think I will.

Tarrol PetersonPanelist

2:19

On that note, this perfectly kind of segues into what can we do as guys who are out? And what do I do as one of the guys who's out? What can we do to help the guys who are still in? I work with the Army Sniper Association, and we put on the small event called the International Sniper Competition every year at Fort Benning.

Tarrol PetersonPanelist

2:44

the Army Sniper Association was founded 15 years ago with the whole idea that we were going to put on, put on a comp because the active duty guys at Fort Benning can't take any prizes whatsoever for the comp.

Tarrol PetersonPanelist

3:00

It can't come in their hands because guess what? They take a prize from a company, say a brand new rifle.

Tarrol PetersonPanelist

3:08

They can't pass that rifle on to, uh, It might seem like they're giving a $3,000, $4,000, $5,000 rifle to one of their buddies.

Tarrol PetersonPanelist

3:19

So that's why the Army Sniper Association is there.

Tarrol PetersonPanelist

3:22

Going with the Army Sniper Association, we've been doing a lot more outreach.

Tarrol PetersonPanelist

3:27

We have a whole veterans program going on right now of getting guys squared away with their VA.

Tarrol PetersonPanelist

3:35

I think everybody in this room probably has some sort of VA issue that they've had to deal with.

Tarrol PetersonPanelist

3:40

I got plenty of them.

Tarrol PetersonPanelist

3:42

I'm still going to the VA.

Tarrol PetersonPanelist

3:43

I go there probably once a month to deal with my stuff.

Tarrol PetersonPanelist

3:47

But new guys are getting out and guys are getting medicaled out.

Tarrol PetersonPanelist

3:51

We have a transition program to help them with their medical transition because guess what? They don't tell you and they don't want you to know what your rights are.

Tarrol PetersonPanelist

4:03

I've seen guys sign way too early and not get the benefits they should be getting.

Tarrol PetersonPanelist

4:10

So we help those guys.

Tarrol PetersonPanelist

4:11

We have a lawyer who actually helps them and knows the law.

Tarrol PetersonPanelist

4:15

She's a former JAG lawyer who knows the law and knows how to read it and write it and write the letters that you need.

Tarrol PetersonPanelist

4:22

So anybody out there who's an Army guy or maybe a guy Marine, whatever, and you're getting ready to get medicaled out or you're getting out of the military, a sniper, Army Sniper Association will help you out.

Tarrol PetersonPanelist

4:41

We'll make sure that you...

Tarrol PetersonPanelist

4:44

So when you do your VA stuff, it goes smoothly as it possibly can.

Tarrol PetersonPanelist

4:50

Be out there as smoothly as it possibly can.

Tarrol PetersonPanelist

4:52

And we get you the right benefits that you deserve.

Tarrol PetersonPanelist

4:54

I mean, you put your time in, did your stuff, you fell off that cliff, you broke your ankle, whatever.