Jun 30, 2026 · 1 hr 3 min · 15 segments
In this episode of PodCrash, Matt Ebert sits down with AI advisor Sam Woods for a practical conversation about how businesses should actually use AI right now. Sam explains why the gap between flashy…
Sam WoodsGuest
Matt EbertHost
It seems to me like we're right at the time now when the rubber's meeting the road as far as businesses getting value out of that.

Is that what you're seeing? Because it seemed like a lot of hype for a minute where, you know, I'll go to CEO peer groups and stuff and they'll talk about what they're doing.

And I'm not so sure that people were seeing it affect performance, bottom line, you name it.

And right around before that, it was not easy to work with these models, and it took a lot of work to work with them.

And even when Chachi Petit comes out and for the next 2023, 2024, I think what happened is people started to see the potential.

And a lot of the researchers and frontier labs, they're like, hey, this is transformational.

But as you know, there was, and still is, just a ton of hype, a lot of promises, a lot of big picture, a lot of, hey, here's all the things you could do.

But the difference between a demo and something that exists as a system that works and that's making work easier, life easier, and has an impact, huge gap.

And I think in the past year, especially 2025 and into now, we've seen a lot of the hype becoming real.

But I do believe, from what I'm seeing on the ground, the people that I work with, other companies that we know in the space, a lot of the capabilities have caught up to all the potential.

And it's easier now to realize the value and to build something that actually works than it was even this time, like May 2025, you started to see, especially with agents, you start to see, OK, we now have consistency in how the models are performing.

So I think now it's easier to see and easier to also make it valuable and to make it work than it used to be.

The hardest thing is just people coming to us, and other people too, and they have a list of things they've seen demos on and the hype, and they go, we just want this, and we want it next week.

It seems to me like we're right at the time now when the rubber's meeting the road as far as businesses getting value out of that.

Is that what you're seeing? Because it seemed like a lot of hype for a minute where, you know, I'll go to CEO peer groups and stuff and they'll talk about what they're doing.

And I'm not so sure that people were seeing it affect performance, bottom line, you name it.

And right around before that, it was not easy to work with these models, and it took a lot of work to work with them.

And even when Chachi Petit comes out and for the next 2023, 2024, I think what happened is people started to see the potential.

And a lot of the researchers and frontier labs, they're like, hey, this is transformational.

But as you know, there was, and still is, just a ton of hype, a lot of promises, a lot of big picture, a lot of, hey, here's all the things you could do.

But the difference between a demo and something that exists as a system that works and that's making work easier, life easier, and has an impact, huge gap.

And I think in the past year, especially 2025 and into now, we've seen a lot of the hype becoming real.

But I do believe, from what I'm seeing on the ground, the people that I work with, other companies that we know in the space, a lot of the capabilities have caught up to all the potential.

And it's easier now to realize the value and to build something that actually works than it was even this time, like May 2025, you started to see, especially with agents, you start to see, OK, we now have consistency in how the models are performing.

So I think now it's easier to see and easier to also make it valuable and to make it work than it used to be.

The hardest thing is just people coming to us, and other people too, and they have a list of things they've seen demos on and the hype, and they go, we just want this, and we want it next week.
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