Plants of the Gods: S8E4 The research behind microdosing and medicine (Dr. Pamela Kryskow, Part 2)

Great bumper sticker.

I want to go back to something you said, which I think is incredibly important because many people contact me and said, oh, I went to a totally traditional ayahuasca ceremony in Costa Rica.

And after I drank the ayahuasca, I did the combo toad.

toad venom, and then I had marijuana to calm down.

I'm like, well, first of all, a traditional ayahuasca ceremony is in the Amazon, and there are very few people, I only know of one group in the Amazon, the Yawanawas, that do mix ayahuasca with toad venom.

And then where does cannabis come in? That's from another continent.

So I'm very suspicious of this type of like, oh, yeah, well, let's just throw all these things together.

Only good can come out of it.

Yeah, totally agree.

And that cognitive dissonance on that is it was a totally traditional ceremony.

No, it wasn't because we weren't there.

And

that is that is one of the biggest things.

The very first time I had ayahuasca was in Colombia.

I had that.

It was it was we were so lucky.

It was myself and a good friend.

And two folks from Columbia that were with us.

And then the ayahuasquera and the ayahuasquero.

So husband and wife.

And we had so much time.

And it was so blatantly clear, even though we were in a beautiful maloca, that this was not the traditional way that ayahuasca works.

That this was for us, for our Western, you know, what we needed as Westerners.

But when they, we had so, it was so fun because we got to listen to their stories of how they actually drank and how they actually drank.

celebrated.