Pitchfork Economics with Nick Hanauer
Sep 8, 2026 · 34 min · 8 segments
Americans are told Social Security is in trouble because there are more retirees and fewer workers to support them. But that story leaves out a major part of the problem: how much income now sits…
Rey FuentesGuestGoldyHostSo Goldie, at the end of the day, to fix social security, it's got to be some variation on my idea.
Basically, we have to capture more income that is now finding a way to evade the tax, whether that's capital income or dividend income or pass-through income or whatever it is.
To provide income, particularly to wealthy people, which is not subject to that tax.
This is a system designed to work in a 1930s industrial economy where most people's income came from wages, not capital income, and where the economy was less unequal.
correct.
That wages consumed a much larger portion of the economy than it does now.
So as inequality grows, an increasingly smaller portion, I don't know how to, a decreasing portion of the economy is actually subject to the Social Security tax.
So 10%, that's $3 trillion plus or minus that used to be wages and is now other things, mostly corporate
profits.
Correct.
Correct.
So now you're
It's 300 billion extra that would be going into Social Security if we didn't have an economy.
Right.
So Goldie, at the end of the day, to fix social security, it's got to be some variation on my idea.
Basically, we have to capture more income that is now finding a way to evade the tax, whether that's capital income or dividend income or pass-through income or whatever it is.
To provide income, particularly to wealthy people, which is not subject to that tax.
This is a system designed to work in a 1930s industrial economy where most people's income came from wages, not capital income, and where the economy was less unequal.
correct.
That wages consumed a much larger portion of the economy than it does now.
So as inequality grows, an increasingly smaller portion, I don't know how to, a decreasing portion of the economy is actually subject to the Social Security tax.
So 10%, that's $3 trillion plus or minus that used to be wages and is now other things, mostly corporate
profits.
Correct.
Correct.
So now you're
It's 300 billion extra that would be going into Social Security if we didn't have an economy.
Right.
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