Aug 18, 2026 · 42 min · 13 segments
What happens when a church leadership team begins to slowly drift? The warning signs may be subtle—but over time, they can damage trust, create division, and undermine the health of the entire church…
Chris SonksenGuestNow, I come from a communication media background, and one of the problems I see with churches that struggle with media issues is pastors go to Bible college, they go to seminary, they learn about how to preach, they learn about leading a church, but they really don't learn a lot about the practical aspects that you're dealing with or that I'm dealing with from a media perspective.

Yeah, it always comes down to, I always say it comes down to staff, leadership, strategy, or structure.

How are you gonna grow this church? How are you gonna develop it? How do you get more people here? How do you get those people to keep coming back? How do you get those people engaged? How do you focus on the growth engines? It has to happen.
I mean, I've seen churches that were dwindling and dying, and another pastor came in and took it over as a campus or a satellite, and it suddenly exploded.
Now, I come from a communication media background, and one of the problems I see with churches that struggle with media issues is pastors go to Bible college, they go to seminary, they learn about how to preach, they learn about leading a church, but they really don't learn a lot about the practical aspects that you're dealing with or that I'm dealing with from a media perspective.

Yeah, it always comes down to, I always say it comes down to staff, leadership, strategy, or structure.

How are you gonna grow this church? How are you gonna develop it? How do you get more people here? How do you get those people to keep coming back? How do you get those people engaged? How do you focus on the growth engines? It has to happen.
I mean, I've seen churches that were dwindling and dying, and another pastor came in and took it over as a campus or a satellite, and it suddenly exploded.
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