410: Wesley Warshawer - Transformative Travel

Yeah, I mean, I think searching for these type of epiphany moments, like, I love them.

I think I grow so much in those moments.

I think it's hard to grow as a person when you're in your bubble, when you're meeting people that are just like you.

You know all the same things.

You watch all the same TV shows.

You understand all the same cultural references.

So I think these types of things... happen all the time and I can jump into more.

I remember once talking to someone who was in Indiana and she's from a smaller town in Indiana and she once asked me, this was years ago, but It was kind of in the news about there was caravans of people coming to the United States.

And she asked me something.

Where are you from? I said, Arizona.

I studied at University of Arizona.

And she said something like, oh, I wouldn't live in I wouldn't live in southern Arizona.

And I was like, oh, really? Like, why? And she said, oh, well, I just think it would be so it would just interrupt my life if just caravans of people were walking through your communities.

And I was like, I don't know what you're talking about.

And she said, oh, I saw on the news like caravans of people from Mexico.

And I said, oh, OK, well, I've never seen that.

And she said, never seen that.

And she said something like, when you were a student, weren't your days interrupted by people just running across your campus? And I'm like, no, I've never had that happen.

And I've never seen that.

And so, you know, I don't think that person is dumb.

I don't say this in a mocking way.

It's just like, oh, we're in totally different bubbles.

And like you said, those types of bubbles can be in India or they can be, you know, your fellow Americans.

So I think those types of things are great to have those disagreements.

Sorry, not disagreements.