Childlike Wonder Versus Analytical Skepticism: How to Experience the Supernatural

Let's go back to the beginning for me, because I've been researching and studying this phenomenon for a long time.

I got into it as a Christian.

And the first stuff that I was introduced to was all of the Christian ufologists.

L.A. Marzulli.

Guy Malone, Tom Horn.

There were so many people.

And across the board, they all taught and believed that UFOs were demonic.

And it wasn't until I started watching some of their conferences, and sometimes they would go to conferences with other people, maybe like a Dr. Michael Heiser would share the stage with David Wilcock or something like that.

And it would introduce other people and their work and they would share things that caught my attention.

And I felt like from the people outside of the Christian community, I felt like they weren't biased, just because like, hands down, for the most part, the Christian folks said that, you know, these were demons.

And this is the attributes they share that look like demons, and they'll give you scriptures and, and stuff.

So it's always like this evil alien agenda thing.

Did any of these Christian people have footage that they would show? And like, like, do we have examples of what they saw that they would say is demonic or?

No, it was mostly like theological.

Okay.

Like they were just into the subject.

It wasn't, most of them weren't experiences.

Okay.

So that's a huge difference.

That is different.

So I was sort of looking into some of these other names and found the work of David Wilcock early on.

And one of the biggest names, I just want to name drop this person because a lot of names get overlooked.

And for me, being a Christian, somebody who did open it up for this broader conversation for me, who didn't say that they were demons.

And he related them back to the Bible.

and believed that they were angelic.